What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby Major sssspielberg! » Sun May 13, 2018 1:01 pm

Gotta say it seems like everyone has good taste! I have to say MGII tied with 84 for the top spot, for sure. Vs King Ghidorah is up there too just because it's the perfect portayal of Godzilla's character.
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby Omegamorph » Mon May 21, 2018 3:56 am

I think the first three films in the series all have their fair share of great things about them -- 84 is absolutely excellent tonally and stylistically, harkening back to the first film's serious tone and adding more than a dash of political conflict and paranoia; Biollante is on point emotionally (although the music is oft questionable and there's a certain lack of focus) and arguably features the one best example of creature effects in the entire series; King Ghidorah is a load of fun going back to that 50s pulpiness filtered through a late 80s lens and a lovable super-confusing time travel element

from Mothra on the films seem to lose steam then die at the SpaceGodzilla point. Destroyah is a great high point emotional ending to the series
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby eabaker » Mon May 21, 2018 11:08 am

Omegamorph wrote:I think the first three films in the series all have their fair share of great things about them -- 84 is absolutely excellent tonally and stylistically, harkening back to the first film's serious tone and adding more than a dash of political conflict and paranoia; Biollante is on point emotionally (although the music is oft questionable and there's a certain lack of focus) and arguably features the one best example of creature effects in the entire series; King Ghidorah is a load of fun going back to that 50s pulpiness filtered through a late 80s lens and a lovable super-confusing time travel element


Only thing I'd add to that is that King Ghidorah offers one of the boldest thematic conceits that series had seen up to that time, which wouldn't be until a decade later in GMK.
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby Omegamorph » Thu May 24, 2018 2:54 pm

eabaker wrote:Only thing I'd add to that is that King Ghidorah offers one of the boldest thematic conceits that series had seen up to that time, which wouldn't be until a decade later in GMK.

What would that be, specifically? Shindo's arc?

(There's a lot of bold stuff in it)

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Postby eabaker » Thu May 24, 2018 3:09 pm

Omegamorph wrote:
eabaker wrote:Only thing I'd add to that is that King Ghidorah offers one of the boldest thematic conceits that series had seen up to that time, which wouldn't be until a decade later in GMK.

What would that be, specifically? Shindo's arc?

(There's a lot of bold stuff in it)


The three-strip paralleling of Shindo/Godzilla/Japan('s economy) as monsters that emerged post-war.
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Postby PitchBlackProgress » Fri May 25, 2018 1:03 am

eabaker wrote:
Omegamorph wrote:
eabaker wrote:Only thing I'd add to that is that King Ghidorah offers one of the boldest thematic conceits that series had seen up to that time, which wouldn't be until a decade later in GMK.

What would that be, specifically? Shindo's arc?

(There's a lot of bold stuff in it)


The three-strip paralleling of Shindo/Godzilla/Japan('s economy) as monsters that emerged post-war.

I never thought of it like that... wow.
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby KaijuCanuck » Sat May 26, 2018 10:28 pm

I’m going to say Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II. It’s just a really fun movie.

Anyone notice how all of Godzilla’s Showa allies have appeared in a Mechagodzilla film? Anguirus, King Caesar, Rodan and Mothra. Just a random, pointless observation.
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Postby PitchBlackProgress » Sun May 27, 2018 3:10 am

KaijuCanuck wrote:I’m going to say Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II. It’s just a really fun movie.

Anyone notice how all of Godzilla’s Showa allies have appeared in a Mechagodzilla film? Anguirus, King Caesar, Rodan and Mothra. Just a random, pointless observation.

Muh boi Jet Jaguar never appeared in one so your statement is false.
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Postby Zarm » Sun May 27, 2018 3:20 am

Although they've all appeared in a Gigan film...
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby KaijuCanuck » Sun May 27, 2018 3:26 am

PitchBlackProgress wrote:
KaijuCanuck wrote:I’m going to say Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla II. It’s just a really fun movie.

Anyone notice how all of Godzilla’s Showa allies have appeared in a Mechagodzilla film? Anguirus, King Caesar, Rodan and Mothra. Just a random, pointless observation.

Muh boi Jet Jaguar never appeared in one so your statement is false.


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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby Extreme Warhawk » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:33 pm

Godzilla Vs Biollante hands down
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby jackzilla » Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:54 am

Godzilla vs Desotroyah for sure. Sorry person above, but GVB is my least favorite :freak:
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby GojiDog » Thu Jul 19, 2018 7:46 am

The three that come to mind for me are Godzilla Vs. Biollante, Godzilla Vs. King Ghidorah, and Godzilla Vs. Destroyah.

For Biollante, I just love how they managed to cram so much into it and yet the movie is still coherent and flows well. I mean espionage, assassins, fictional countries, psychics, eco-terrorists, genetic mutations, and a ton of wacky sci-fi weaponry to fight Godzilla. This movie really shouldn't work as well as it does, but it is immensely entertaining and it kind of set the tone for the Heisei series "comic book" style that would carry to the end. Also, Biollante is one of the most amazing kaiju ever put on film, and a true achievement of practical special effects for me. I mean I was stunned that this hulking thing could move across the stage, but they did it. It is just great stuff all around. And finally, IMO, Godzilla has never looked better than in this film. When I think of Godzilla, that's the image I have.

Godzilla Vs. King Ghidorah is the definitive "Sci-Fi" Godzilla film, at least to me. It utilizes time travel, UFOs, cyborgs, and all sorts of craziness, giving it a very different feel from the rest of the series. The real appeal of it though are the monsters and their development. To use wrestling terminology, there are more monster "heel" and "face" turns than any other movie in the series, and it all works. We actually get to see Godzilla become the "hero" again, only for that plan to blow up in Japan's face, and then we get a Ghidorah face turn (albeit as a soulless cyborg). The real highlight for me though is Mr. Shindo and his relationship to Godzilla, which resulted in what might be my favorite moment in the entire Godzilla franchise. I could interpret that scene at least 5 different ways, and they all work.

And then we have Godzilla Vs. Destroyah, which I always liked because it served as a nice bookend to the 1954 original. They brought back the Yamane family, had a creature born out of the Oxygen Destroyer (officially confirming Serasawa's fears of using the thing in the first place), and of course, Godzilla dies in the end. Destroyah proved to be an awesome foe with all these great designs for each form (Heisei Hedorah, sorta kinda?) and I love the whole idea of Godzilla basically being a giant bomb waiting to go off. It gave the film a sense of urgency and stakes that helped it to rise above many other entries. And yeah, Godzilla's death scene was beautifully done (would have preferred no dialogue from the actors, but hey).

Picking a favorite from those three is very tough as I think all of them are great.
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Re: What is your favorite movie in the heisei era?

Postby PitchBlackProgress » Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:14 pm

Godzilla 1985- The dub using the Def Con 4 tracks of course, the dub on the Kraken DVD is just as atrocious as the rest of the Heisei dubs.
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