Gamera 3 - The Negatives

[Inferno Rodan]

Of course, it also seems to me that the movie will just keep getting better the next time I see it, now that the fast paced parts -such as the cultists- won't come up as confusing and improvised -which is the risk of several plot lines and slight pace problems-.

It won't. In fact, I find myself getting more annoyed with it on each viewing.

[kaiju115]

My only negative for Gamera 3 is that one guy that gets killed by the falling ceiling. I don't remember a thing about that character except how he dies, other than that the movie is a masterpiece.

[omgitsgodzilla]

I loved that guy. He was sort of over-the-top, but he was great. He got killed in such a lame way, they almost literally Dropped a Bridge On Him.

[kaiju115]

I loved that guy. He was sort of over-the-top, but he was great. He got killed in such a lame way, they almost literally Dropped a Bridge On Him.

Yeah, I agree he was a bit over-the-top which is good, but I just didn't remember the character as much as everything else: The monsters, the action, the other human characters especially Asagi Kusanagi, & Mayumi Nagamine. But I like I said, the movie is a masterpiece.

[g2kmaster]

I just didn't remember the character as much as everything else.

Yes, a good bit of people are off put by Kurata Shinya and his female cohort.

The cultists (Asakura Mito and the video game guy who is over the top in some cases) are bits of social commentary. With the film being apocalyptic as it is, it needed some reality. In truth, around 1999 there have been reports of cults becoming a massive thing in Japan. So bad that the Aum Shinkikyo cult (which caused 12 deaths in Japan the same year G:GGOTU was released) was said to have been making a base in London and try to cause a "baptism of fire" to set off the apocalypse - with only the members surviving. It didn’t happen. Though now, take a look at Shibuya after the boy cries to his mother "Gamera saved me!". It looks as such a baptism.

Asakura Mito doesn't seem to be a very important person to the Japanese government other than being a fortune teller (in which if that was to every actually happen, the government might be seen as nuts) and Kurata Shinya is a retired video game maker. This is important because Aum Shinrikyo was known to recruit middle class people in real life. So there’s a parallel. Not to mention their beliefs were messed up versions of religions which sourced beliefs from books like the I, CHING (aka, the Book of Changes which Mito quotes at the beginning). Only whatever cult Mito and Shinya were a part of was perhaps more dangerous since not only was one of them smart (Shinya, who does most of the Irys hypothesizing) and has connections to the government (Mito), but they have a major bit: they had a connection to Irys via Ayana. It only got screwed up when Asakura Mito thought it was time to take back her apparent birthright (remember, Shinya mentioned something about Asakura's blood line) only to get killed because she was not the chosen one (Ayana was).

[Destroyer]

I agree that some of the fantasy aspects were too much, but after watching it recently on Blu-Ray, it's definitely a masterpiece in the kaiju world, and just a great film overall.

[kaiju115]

I agree that some of the fantasy aspects were too much, but after watching it recently on Blu-Ray, it's definitely a masterpiece in the kaiju world, and just a great film overall.

You can say that again man, I'm still waiting on my replacement disk from Mill Creek Entertainment Though, as of now I've been watching the other two on Blu-ray as well as the Criterion Collection of Godzilla.

[Tyler]

There's a scene towards the end where the kid says, "Knife, do something! Go get him!" and he throws it at Iris. All it does is bounce off and cut Ayana. What was that about?

[HayesAJones]

I always just assumed that was to show how Iris was allowed to get far more powerful that what he should have been. *shrug*

[Living Corpse]

There's a scene towards the end where the kid says, "Knife, do something! Go get him!" and he throws it at Iris. All it does is bounce off and cut Ayana. What was that about?

Some stupid myth about a magical knife that's been in his family since forever. And it's just that, a stupid myth. All it did was knock some sense in Ayana when it slashed her face.

[kaiju115]

Yeah that was an odd scene, though I love how the luminescence changes color on Irys after that, like you can kind of tell what Irys is thinking at that moment.

[Living Corpse]

Yeah that was an odd scene, though I love how the luminescence changes color on Irys after that, like you can kind of tell what Irys is thinking at that moment.

Yeah, we may know next to nothing about Iris but it's pretty clear when the lights change that it's pissed off at having something thrown at it.

[thatsoundman]

There's a scene towards the end where the kid says, "Knife, do something! Go get him!" and he throws it at Iris. All it does is bounce off and cut Ayana. What was that about?

Some stupid myth about a magical knife that's been in his family since forever. And it's just that, a stupid myth. All it did was knock some sense in Ayana when it slashed her face.

and wasnt that enough that it "knocked" some sense in to ayana? gamera was handling the battle duties with Irys about that time anyway. imho.

[Living Corpse]

Oh hell, they didn't even need the knife. He could have just walked up to her and scratch her face with his nails to knock some sense into her.

[thatsoundman]

Oh hell, they didn't even need the knife. He could have just walked up to her and scratch her face with his nails to knock some sense into her.

and do you think it would have had the same effect?

[Living Corpse]

Oh hell, they didn't even need the knife. He could have just walked up to her and scratch her face with his nails to knock some sense into her.

and do you think it would have had the same effect?

Yes.

[kaiju115]

It wouldn't matter what the guy did, Irys would still get angry, and simply knock him out cold with his extra tentacles.

[g2kmaster]

I wouldn't say that the myth is stupid. There is some aspects of the film which support the mythological parts of the story.

[Tyler]

The deleted scenes on the new Blu-ray make things a bit clearer. Although I say that based on the insane subtitles.

[Living Corpse]

I wouldn't say that the myth is stupid. There is some aspects of the film which support the mythological parts of the story.

Which one?

There's several myths being talked about in this film. The only one I find stupid though is the knife one, so pointless.