Kaijuborn95 wrote:I know this threat has been inactive for a long time but I need to put my two sense in on one thing I've seen people talking about: GvsKG should have removed 84 and GvB from history.
While it would have if Godzilla was mutated in the 90s, the movies aren't removed from history because Godzilla gets mutated in the 70s by nuclear subs(nuclear sub waste area, I don't remember), so the movies would still be within history.
Yep; right on. The Futurians don't wind up rewriting the events of Godzilla's origins in the way they believed they were going to. Instead, they're participants in creating the second Godzilla that shows up in Godzilla
'84 and vs. Biollante
. When they go to try to create him "again" with Shindo's nuclear sub in 1991 -- surprise -- Godzilla's already around and the sub both cures him of the effects of the ANEB and causes further mutation.
However, it's worth pointing out that the movie is still muddled in its time-travel model, and doesn't conform neatly to a predestination paradox. Emi's future is constantly changing. When the Futurians first go back, Emi reveals that the truth is that the ANEB had kept Godzilla incapacitated, allowing Japan's meteoric economic rise that the Futurians had come back to prevent. When we see her back in her own time, searching for the remains of Ghidorah, her partner asks her if she wants to save Japan, that country that was doomed by Godzilla's attacks. Evidently by reawakening Gozilla in 1991, her future had genuinely altered. Presumably, some sort of more sustainable balance is caused by Godzilla doing some
damage in '91, notably crippling Shindo's economic empire, but not too much before he's incapacitated once again by Mecha-King Ghidorah. (In which case ... the best outcome was that Godzilla killed certain people, but not too many? It's a little morally problematic.)
That ... doesn't really make any sense, but the movie paints itself into a corner. The circular nature of all the pre-'91 time travel seems well-defined, but it doesn't line up with the continual changes in the future, and there doesn't seem to be a lot to do about that.
I still love this movie, but it's best to think about its time-travel in really broad terms and just enjoy the way it grapples with Japan's economic status, relationship to the war, etc. That's the interesting stuff, on top of all the '60s-styled sci-fi fun.