Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

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Re: Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

Postby Missingno. » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:40 am

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Postby he-ba » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:17 pm

Where are my manners? I don't think I have welcomed you yet, Missingno.!

And three, you are spot on. I'm not good with sarcasm, it just.... doesn't work or end well....
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Postby three » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:23 pm

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Postby he-ba » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:26 pm

Nay Nay, it's fine, in fact.... I kind of liked being talked about positively :huge:

...ok why is that smillie called huge? That kind of freaks me out.......

EDIT: whoops wrong smillie, I meant this one :shock:
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Postby Missingno. » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:39 pm

he-ba wrote:Nay Nay, it's fine, in fact.... I kind of liked being talked about positively :huge:

...ok why is that smillie called huge? That kind of freaks me out.......

EDIT: whoops wrong smillie, I meant this one :shock:
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Postby ILL GREEN » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:35 am

Hey I saw an asian bootleg of GvsSG but it was read as Godzilla vs Super Godzilla. I tried to correct the seller to say its SPACE Godzilla not SUPER but then he schooled me on the characters saying it reads SUPER Godzilla. I checked on the translator and yup its Super Godzilla. Are these bootleggers bumbling idiots with a printer or did the US market changed the name?

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Postby he-ba » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:27 pm

I don't think so, check the main site. It seems these people are idiots........
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Postby M.U.T.O. » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:00 pm

How doth it feel?
OT: Well, SG is crystalline Godzilla. It's implied that G-cells made its way out with Biollante, and given the tusks and texture, B-cells could've intermuted with G-cells, coalescing in "Godzillante-cells".
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Postby Missingno. » Fri Aug 07, 2015 2:36 pm

Bringing this back because I think this makes for an interesting discussion, and that it got off topic before it died.
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Re: Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

Postby Mechagigan » Fri Aug 07, 2015 6:05 pm

I don't think so. Biollante was a Godzilla mixed with a Rose, hence her viney look - If she grew to become even more Godzilla-esque, she would have had more leafy aspects to her. SpaceGodzilla is a combination of Biollante and some crystalline stuff, hence the more 'Godzilla', less 'Little Shop of Horrors' look.

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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:10 pm

I like to think the Godzilla cells over time are too powerful for the rose cells so the rose traits die off. It's why second Biollante looked more like Godzilla. Possibly down the line it would just be a secondary Godzilla and given it drifted off into Space it would become SpaceGodzilla. Plus I feel like GCells are more likely to survive in space, the plant cells would die off.

Also it's pretty much clear if you look at Godzilla vs Spacegodzilla art Spacegodzilla was originally just Biollante with crystals and Godzilla fins. He had the same exact face.

But regardless of what we know it is confirmed that Biollante Cells did become Spacegodzilla, just maybe not the rose parts? So in a sense no matter what Spacegodzilla is the child of Biollante so to speak and if we consider one cell of Biollante turning into Spacegodzilla than yeah she/he is.

Edit: Sort of unrelated but Id like to talk about two non film monsters that spawned from SpaceGodzilla, Krystalak and Obsidius. So Godzilla>Biollante>SpaceGodzilla>Krystalak?

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The super X to the Super X 3.

The Heisei series is full of lineages. I like to think Biollante follows this trend.

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Re: Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

Postby three » Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:08 am

Mechagigan wrote:I don't think so. Biollante was a Godzilla mixed with a Rose, hence her viney look - If she grew to become even more Godzilla-esque, she would have had more leafy aspects to her. SpaceGodzilla is a combination of Biollante and some crystalline stuff, hence the more 'Godzilla', less 'Little Shop of Horrors' look.


yea, but she was evolving to look more like Godzilla over time anyway.

can't remember if it was said already or not, but i do recall SG and Biollante sharing similar abilities. even the corona beam and acid vomit are the same color, and both have negative effects on electronics.
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Re: Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:06 pm

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Mechagigan wrote:I don't think so. Biollante was a Godzilla mixed with a Rose, hence her viney look - If she grew to become even more Godzilla-esque, she would have had more leafy aspects to her. SpaceGodzilla is a combination of Biollante and some crystalline stuff, hence the more 'Godzilla', less 'Little Shop of Horrors' look.


yea, but she was evolving to look more like Godzilla over time anyway.

can't remember if it was said already or not, but i do recall SG and Biollante sharing similar abilities. even the corona beam and acid vomit are the same color, and both have negative effects on electronics.

Acid Spray was green but parts of it glowed yellow and Biollante had yellow surge through it's body whilst charging up. I can confirm the corona beam was yellow but I forget if SG glowed at all.

And yeah, Biollante has a form of EMP abilities, at least in Spore form, so yeah that is a similarity.

Here's another similarity: both monsters store energy in really large areas. Biollante had a "heart" that's orange and when attacked severely damaged her. SG has those crystals. Those traits are not something Godizilla has so it can be inferred that Biollante may have passed that trait onto Spacegodzilla.
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Postby Missingno. » Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:43 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:Acid Spray was green but parts of it glowed yellow and Biollante had yellow surge through it's body whilst charging up. I can confirm the corona beam was yellow but I forget if SG glowed at all.

And yeah, Biollante has a form of EMP abilities, at least in Spore form, so yeah that is a similarity.

Here's another similarity: both monsters store energy in really large areas. Biollante had a "heart" that's orange and when attacked severely damaged her. SG has those crystals. Those traits are not something Godizilla has so it can be inferred that Biollante may have passed that trait onto Spacegodzilla.


Actually, Biollante and SG did glow, coincidentally near both of their defeats (though Biollante won her battle). Biollante's nucleus glowed after being blasted in the mouth by Godzilla, and Spacegodzilla glowed after Fukuoka tower was destroyed and both shoulder crystals were blown off. It isn't out of reason to say that these traits are shared by the two because they are the same monster.

After all, in the beginning of GvSG, they say that the Godzilla cells were absorbed by a black hole, exposed to the energy of exploding stars, and spat out by a white hole. Perhaps Biollante was in her "dissolved form" and traveling through space when the encounter with the black hole occured.

After all, 5 years passed after Biollante was last seen, so who knows what she would've looked like had she not been mutated through the black hole.
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Re: Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

Postby Sparkzilla14 » Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:27 am

I like this theory!
And about the "is it a he or she?" I think according to the theory originally posted, if the cells were to take a evolutionary stage and was leaving behind "weak traits" whats stopping it from changing it's sex? Seeing that Godzilla has obvious reptilian traits, could it change sex like some frogs? So SpaceG could still be a male due to the fact that it's roar and behavior is not exactly feminine.

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Postby M.o.g.u.e.r.a14 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:09 am

So are Biollante and Spacegodzilla the same monster?
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M.o.g.u.e.r.a14 wrote:So are Biollante and Spacegodzilla the same monster?

Maaaaybe... In some sort of way or some weird DNA reincarnation then I guess.

Again, there are 2 theories for SpaceG's origins. One of them is the commonly accepted Biollante origin. That G-Cells from Biollante merged with a crystal life form, entered a black hole and fed off the explosion of stars and cosmic energy. (Cliff notes) Note the word is G-Cells. It could be that all plant and human matter where separated from the G-Cell's at some point during that time prior to the merging with a crystal organism.

I have my own theory about SpaceGodzilla and G-Cell's sorta being an evolutionary wonder on how they pick and choose the best traits of whatever host they come into contact with and reject the rest as "inferior". They deemed most if not all the human and planet DNA material as inferior but kept the rapid regeneration of a plant, the intelligence of a human and possbilily others in it's genetic code and then merged with the crystal organism as the base host. Something along the lines though, maybe the energy from the stars or the organism's make up, it created a perfectly stable G-Mutant. Something of which hasn't really been done since of before.

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Postby Lain Of The Wired » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:23 am

I'm just not a fan of fan theories, of any kind.
Everyone's always coming up with these highly imaginitive, or just completely off-the-wall ideas.
Too much over thinking, really. Sure, sometimes the ideas are cool, and sometimes they're fairly intriguing, but that alone is why I think that it's just over thinking on the fan's part.
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Re: Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:59 pm

Lain Of The Wired wrote:I'm just not a fan of fan theories, of any kind.
Everyone's always coming up with these highly imaginitive, or just completely off-the-wall ideas.
Too much over thinking, really. Sure, sometimes the ideas are cool, and sometimes they're fairly intriguing, but that alone is why I think that it's just over thinking on the fan's part.
Remember, this is Toho, don't over think things with them, the answers behind these things are always short, sweet, and simple.

The thing is though that they aren't really fan theories, it's been confirmed even in the films (and concept art) that Spacegodzilla did originate from Biollante/Godzilla cells. It's more of a fan theory to try to connect it more or see more of the influence but again the original theory isn't a fan theory, it's cannon.
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Re: Is Space Godzilla a Fully Evolved Biollante?

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:18 pm

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Lain Of The Wired wrote:I'm just not a fan of fan theories, of any kind.
Everyone's always coming up with these highly imaginitive, or just completely off-the-wall ideas.
Too much over thinking, really. Sure, sometimes the ideas are cool, and sometimes they're fairly intriguing, but that alone is why I think that it's just over thinking on the fan's part.
Remember, this is Toho, don't over think things with them, the answers behind these things are always short, sweet, and simple.

The thing is though that they aren't really fan theories, it's been confirmed even in the films (and concept art) that Spacegodzilla did originate from Biollante/Godzilla cells. It's more of a fan theory to try to connect it more or see more of the influence but again the original theory isn't a fan theory, it's cannon.

They never once confirm it was truly Biollante, and in fact, going by the timeline, Biollante never existed, and since GAM:TBFE comes after GvKG, the theory of Mothra being the reason Spacegodzilla was born seems more likely.
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