Should Godzilla vs Mothra been Mothra vs Battra instead?

[HedorahLives]

The movie probably would've been better had Godzilla not been included. One of my issues with this film (added to dozens of others) is that this doesn't feel like a Godzilla movie. It feels like a Mothra movie with Godzilla tossed in. To be fair this is a problem with Mothra vs. Godzilla as well, though that film does a better job of balancing the two monsters. There's so much material that could've been explored had the filmmakers been allowed to expand on Mothra's character without having to give time to Godzilla as well.

I think the orriginal Godzilla vs Mothra worked better because Godzilla there had a purpous. In that film, he kind of returned to his roots fromt he orriginal 1954 film where he was Nuclear destruction in the form of a creature, and this is played upon with the villiagers that worsiped Mothra as they learned first hand what that destruction is like and view Godzilla as Karma of sorts. In the Heisei film.....they never really adress the fact that Godzilla is man's creation and he's there own terror reaped upon the, he shows up, it's "Oh shit, here's Godzilla" and the battle begins. Even in the "Save the Earth" message they push so heavily, they never adress him as one of the faults of man, it's Mothra beats him and "we need to take care of the earth".

You're onto something here. In the movie, the meteor is the main catalyst for the ensuing destruction, as it does three things; piss off a hibernating Godzilla and uncovers Mothra's egg in the storm, which in turn prompts the emergence of Battra. The meteor can't really be blamed on man (though the screenwriters try) because it's just a random universal occurence, but Akira Takarada's character (in the only dialogue the movie really gives him) talks about how the meteor is really some sort of bad karma for man's misfortunes. The big deal is the rekindling of the rivarly between Mothra and Battra over the fate of earth's people. Godzilla is just kind of an extra problem. In the end, his presence allows Mothra and Battra to resolve their conflict by taking on a more powerful, more belligerent enemy. So I'd say that Godzilla ultimately has a purpose in the story, but he's not the main focus. Mothra '92 stands out for being the only Heisei film that isn't really Godzilla-centric.

[godzillafan]

im not jumping in the bandwagon with all you guys that hate the movie i liked it. it had a great score and a great storyline. i would give this movie 5/5

[Drewzilla]

im not jumping in the bandwagon with all you guys that hate the movie i liked it. it had a great score and a great storyline. i would give this movie 5/5

I wouldn't call it a band wagon on hating it, it's simply that it comes off as bad to a lot of people. I got nothing against you liking, but I can find hardly anything I do like about it. The only things I do like about it where Godzilla vs Larva Battra underwater, the Mothra song being used and Godzilla's entrance from the volcano. Everything else though I just angers me, Mothra and Battra's poor prop designs (I actually concider this the worst Mothra incarnation in the entire franchise), the blatant Indiana Jones rip offs, how little use they made of Miki Siguesa, the save the earth message that they pushed way to heavily, and the reason why I started this thread, the fact that Godzilla is hardly focused on.

If they had taken out Godzilla and this had been problebly better since they wouldn't have wasted him and possibly Miki aswell (since she was only in Godzilla films). Don't know how much better it have been, maybe not much, but still better. But as it is now, I concider it the worst film of the Heisie series (Ironic that it's the most succesfull) and one of the worst in the entire franchise. I got nothing against you liking it, that's your opinion, but mine is vastly different.

[godzillafan]

well you got to admit the final battle was amazing

[Goji]

well you got to admit the final battle was amazing

It was?

IMO, It's actually one of the worst in the entire series. It's boring as hell, and the Mothra and Battra marionettes just don't look good in motion, much less tangling with Godzilla.

[Arrow]

well you got to admit the final battle was amazing

No, I don't. I thought the battle was godawful and a perfect showcase of everything wrong with the mid-to-late '90s final battles. There's a scene somewhere in the final battle where people are looking outside a building and all the audience can see is an endless display of beams. Aside from Mothra's reflective scales and Godzilla's nuclear pulse, that's pretty much all the final battle here consisted of. Add in some sparks and two immobile Mothra and Battra props and you get one of my least favorite final battles of this entire franchise. No innovation, no creativity at all. Absolutely pathetic.

[Drewzilla]

well you got to admit the final battle was amazing

No, I don't. I thought the battle was godawful and a perfect showcase of everything wrong with the mid-to-late '90s final battles. There's a scene somewhere in the final battle where people are looking outside a building and all the audience can see is an endless display of beams. Aside from Mothra's reflective scales and Godzilla's nuclear pulse, that's pretty much all the final battle here consisted of. Add in some sparks and two immobile Mothra and Battra props and you get one of my least favorite final battles of this entire franchise. No innovation, no creativity at all. Absolutely pathetic.

Pretty much sais it all. Although I still think the first fight between Godzilla and Battra's Larva form was pretty good, however that again shows how much Battra's larva form was better then his final form. I mean in Larva form he and Godzilla had a pretty even back and forth fight, and we had no idea of who was really winning when the Eruption occured underwater. His final form needed Mothra to help defeat Godzilla and he still died in the end.