Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Mechagigan » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:24 pm

It's tough to say much about this one that hasn't been expressed before - it's fun, creative, and though a bit cheesy, still a really fun ride regardless.

There's just so much there; not only do we have a confusing, but nonetheless very original time-travel plot, but we have Godzilla's backstory, an amazing return for Ghidorah, interesting upgrades for both monsters, enjoyable characters, pretty good fights and effects... it's a load of plain and simple fun.

It doesn't have the atmosphere or action present in Biollante, and the change in genre is certainly one that doesn't transition smoothly - at least, by comparison. It's two predecessors are generally dark, while this goes for a more fantastic plot.

Yet, GvKG knows what it wants to do, and goes for it - it doesn't concern itself being held back by RoG's countless outbursts of character drama, nor by GvB's bounds to a semi-grounded reality. In an almost Showa-esque style, it goes headfirst into a world of fantasy and awe, and brings us along for the ride. And, hell, it's a really, really upbeat one. Not every character has all the exposition in the world, and there's plenty of bouts of unnecessary cheese, but once again; you just can't repel the pure energy the movie has.

It isn't perfect by any means, but it's one that'll keep you coming back for all it offers.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Godzillian » Sat May 06, 2017 5:17 pm

Here is a deleted scene if anyone is interested
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby JAGzilla » Sun May 07, 2017 5:53 am

^ Kind of cool, but I definitely prefer what we got. The shots of Godzilla's head rising over the cliff, passing by the farm, and tearing through the power lines are much more interesting than a simple shot of him walking. One of my favorite G entrances in the series, too, though pretty much anything would admittedly be awesome when set to that slow, dramatic variant of the March.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sun May 07, 2017 11:03 am

That deleted scene is pretty cool, but yeah I prefer what we got.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby three » Thu May 11, 2017 6:59 pm

JAGzilla wrote:^ Kind of cool, but I definitely prefer what we got. The shots of Godzilla's head rising over the cliff, passing by the farm, and tearing through the power lines are much more interesting than a simple shot of him walking. One of my favorite G entrances in the series, too, though pretty much anything would admittedly be awesome when set to that slow, dramatic variant of the March.


precisely. and hey, the guy in that lighthouse was packing serious heat for it to blow up like that, mm?

but yea, Godzilla slowly walking through a rural sea village was cooler, and i want my casket carried to that version of the march.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby The One and Only » Thu May 11, 2017 11:00 pm

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JAGzilla wrote:^ Kind of cool, but I definitely prefer what we got. The shots of Godzilla's head rising over the cliff, passing by the farm, and tearing through the power lines are much more interesting than a simple shot of him walking. One of my favorite G entrances in the series, too, though pretty much anything would admittedly be awesome when set to that slow, dramatic variant of the March.


precisely. and hey, the guy in that lighthouse was packing serious heat for it to blow up like that, mm?

but yea, Godzilla slowly walking through a rural sea village was cooler, and i want my casket carried to that version of the march.

Maybe it was a gas powered light house ?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Dawsbfiremind » Fri May 12, 2017 2:46 pm

three wrote:and hey, the guy in that lighthouse was packing serious heat for it to blow up like that, mm?


Still not as big as the explosion of M-11's car.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Destorogoji » Sun May 14, 2017 10:04 pm

I'm still wondering what is THAT thing running just before M-11 miserably fails to rip off his jacket.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Dawsbfiremind » Mon May 15, 2017 6:56 am

Destorogoji wrote:I'm still wondering what is THAT thing running just before M-11 miserably fails to rip off his jacket.


Also: why does he rip the sleeve of his burning jacket
and then just take the jacket off?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby UltramanGoji » Mon May 15, 2017 7:41 am

I think I remember reading about that in G-Fan; he was supposed to rip the jacket apart, but the fire spread too fast so he just took it off.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 5:07 pm

The more I think about it, Godzilla would've easily beat King Ghidorah if he decided to or had the power to keep using that purple spiral beam. MKG probably would've suffered the same fate.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:38 pm

I use to really love this film. While I still think it's one of the better entries in the series you can really tell that Kawakita's work was beginning to suffer from his personal problems. It many ways it was the beginning of the downfall of the Heisei era. It still has some inventive camera work and some really cool sequences.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Jeff-Goldblum1 » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:21 am

Why did the future people stop in 1992 instead of travelling directly from 2204 to 1944?

The plot is insane.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby kamilleblu » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:56 am

Yep. There was absolutely no reason to stop in the 1990s. The Futurians had everything they needed to successfully complete their mission and the Japanese characters of the 90s offered nothing of value.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Ivo-goji » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:36 pm

^Not so. They needed Miki to identify the Godzillasaurus as the RoG Godzilla and getting Terasawa along for the ride made sense given that their plan depended on his theory about Godzilla's origins being true; if Godzilla wasn't where they expected him to be they would need to figure out other possible locations. Bringing the people from 1992 along ensured that they're scheme would succeed (so they thought). Plus there was a personal motive for Emmy, who wanted to meet her ancestor Terasawa.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby szmigiel » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:50 pm

Not that I think the plot is perfect. But they didn't want to control post war Japan, they wanted to control 90s Japan. Right before it became the unstoppable economical super power no government could stop. Plus they needed time for King Ghidorah to grow to full size.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby kamilleblu » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:11 am

Don't quite a few psychics exist in the Heisei timeline? Why would they need Miki specifically? And why would Emmy want to meet Terasawa over any other ancestor? Didn't she say his book didn't sell well? I'd imagine she would have mentioned if he did anything else worthwhile in his lifetime.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Zarm » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:25 am

kamilleblu wrote:Don't quite a few psychics exist in the Heisei timeline? Why would they need Miki specifically? And why would Emmy want to meet Terasawa over any other ancestor? Didn't she say his book didn't sell well? I'd imagine she would have mentioned if he did anything else worthwhile in his lifetime.


I think she was indicated as the most powerful, in vs. Spacegodzilla, for instance. Plus, she's had a direct psychic link with Godzilla in the previous film.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby Ivo-goji » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:30 am

kamilleblu wrote:Don't quite a few psychics exist in the Heisei timeline? Why would they need Miki specifically? And why would Emmy want to meet Terasawa over any other ancestor? Didn't she say his book didn't sell well? I'd imagine she would have mentioned if he did anything else worthwhile in his lifetime.

Miki's the only psychic in the series who'd made mental contact with Godzilla, Terasawa was Emmy's only ancestor who authored a book about Godzilla's origins. It doesn't matter if the book sold well or not, it was the theory the Futurians based their plan around.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991)

Postby szmigiel » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:30 am

kamilleblu wrote:Don't quite a few psychics exist in the Heisei timeline? Why would they need Miki specifically? And why would Emmy want to meet Terasawa over any other ancestor? Didn't she say his book didn't sell well? I'd imagine she would have mentioned if he did anything else worthwhile in his lifetime.

Miki "touched Godzilla mind" trying to stop, and failing, to enter Osaka in the previous film. So she was the one to best identify if it was the right one or not.
Emi was the one that said she wanted to meet him in the film. Why over any other ancestor? Her reasons are not given.


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