Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Kaijugriffey » Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:34 pm

I think this is the one Heisei movie I go back to the least (well excluding G1985/Godzilla Returns which I don't have a copy of) . I just find the Heisei GvM kind of dull. Not bad. Not unwatchable. Not stupid. Just not real exciting. The puppet nature of Mothra and Battra make the final fight look like something from the It's a Small World Disney ride.

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby GodzillaRangerPrime » Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:26 pm

The dubbing for the Cosmos is dreadfully terrible

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Who dubbed the Toho films during the 90s? And who handled the Millennium era films? Toho could definitely benefit from hiring decent voice actors for the English dubs of their films.

Since Godzilla vs. Gigan, Godzilla films have used Hong Kong dubs for international releases. After the 1960s, American distributers stopped producing their own dubs. I think the only exceptions to this were G85 and Sony's dub for Godzilla 2000.


Well this explains a lot.

I always enjoyed watching most of the Showa films dubbed, while subtitles are the way to go for Heisei and Millenium era films.

They'll probably go this route with the new 2016 film too
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:13 am

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That was always one of the amusing parts in the movie. :P
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby GodzillaRangerPrime » Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:22 am

Jeez, reading this thread made me realize this movie is shittier than I already thought it was, which are most of the Takao Okawara directed ones.
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Israha » Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:54 pm

Kaijugriffey wrote:I think this is the one Heisei movie I go back to the least (well excluding G1985/Godzilla Returns which I don't have a copy of) . I just find the Heisei GvM kind of dull. Not bad. Not unwatchable. Not stupid. Just not real exciting. The puppet nature of Mothra and Battra make the final fight look like something from the It's a Small World Disney ride.


Exactly my opinion. One word that sums this movie perfectly is "uninspired". Nothing is particularly wrong with it, it just doesn't bring anything special on the table. Only thing that stands out for me are Battra Larva scenes, those are entertaining. Adult Battra, on the other hand, feels as generic and uninspired as the whole movie.

This, however, applies to a certain extent for all Okawara G movies, with exception of G vs. Destoroyah.

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Godzilla Lover101 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:48 am

For all the good Battra brings to the film, it's still pretty awful. I haven't watched it in some time, and their is a good reason why. Godzilla vs King Ghidorah and vs Mechagodzilla though, I've seen them in their entirety a number of times.
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Kaiser » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:26 pm

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Kaijugriffey wrote:I think this is the one Heisei movie I go back to the least (well excluding G1985/Godzilla Returns which I don't have a copy of) . I just find the Heisei GvM kind of dull. Not bad. Not unwatchable. Not stupid. Just not real exciting. The puppet nature of Mothra and Battra make the final fight look like something from the It's a Small World Disney ride.


Exactly my opinion. One word that sums this movie perfectly is "uninspired". Nothing is particularly wrong with it, it just doesn't bring anything special on the table. Only thing that stands out for me are Battra Larva scenes, those are entertaining.


This perfectly sums up my feelings regarding the film. It's not bad the same way SpaceGodzilla is, but it just feels like a sort of paint-by-numbers production that left me feeling like "surely there's a better way to have done this" multiple times while watching it. This makes it frustrating because there's a good movie lurking under the mediocrity that just needed a little more polishing to make it great.

I also agree with you on the Battra larva scenes. The attack on Nagoya has the best special effects work of the entire film aside from the eruption of Mt. Fuji and really gives Battra a sense of menace. Too bad he only shows up two more times in the movie.

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:47 pm

Battra is easily one of the few things that I liked about the movie. The concept of him, his appearance, abilities, and with the exclusion of his roar, he was a great kaiju to add to the Mothra (and in extense, Godzilla) mythology.
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby g2vd » Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:13 am

"Maskaooooooooooooo!" I just realized everybody at the beginning yells like they've been stubbed in the toe :lol: .
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Johnny Danger » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:14 am

Rather than starting a new thread, I’ll just ask this here… I’m writing a story which takes place after the Heisei series, does anyone remember if it is stated in this film how long Mothra will be in outer space completing Battra’s mission, and if so, how long?

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Godzillian » Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:52 am

Johnny Danger wrote:Rather than starting a new thread, I’ll just ask this here… I’m writing a story which takes place after the Heisei series, does anyone remember if it is stated in this film how long Mothra will be in outer space completing Battra’s mission, and if so, how long?

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby KaijuDuke » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:17 am

Johnny Danger wrote:Rather than starting a new thread, I’ll just ask this here… I’m writing a story which takes place after the Heisei series, does anyone remember if it is stated in this film how long Mothra will be in outer space completing Battra’s mission, and if so, how long?


I believe it was said the meteor was going to hit the earth in 1999 if Mothra didn't intercept it first, so she should be gone from earth for quite some time in that timeline (she's be back by now I imagine lol), which I'm sure was the filmmakers intent to explain why Mothra doesn't intervene during every giant monster attack for the rest of the Heisei Godzilla series despite being an earth guardian, she's too busy traveling through deep space.

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Johnny Danger » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:24 am

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Johnny Danger wrote:Rather than starting a new thread, I’ll just ask this here… I’m writing a story which takes place after the Heisei series, does anyone remember if it is stated in this film how long Mothra will be in outer space completing Battra’s mission, and if so, how long?


I believe it was said the meteor was going to hit the earth in 1999 if Mothra didn't intercept it first, so she should be gone from earth for quite some time in that timeline (she's be back by now I imagine lol), which I'm sure was the filmmakers intent to explain why Mothra doesn't intervene during every giant monster attack for the rest of the Heisei Godzilla series despite being an earth guardian, she's too busy traveling through deep space.


That's the problem I'm facing in my story, ha! It takes place between 2005-2008, so surely she'd be back by now...need to come up with a good reason for her not to get involved....or figure out a way to work her in. Hmm...

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby KaijuDuke » Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:58 am

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Johnny Danger wrote:Rather than starting a new thread, I’ll just ask this here… I’m writing a story which takes place after the Heisei series, does anyone remember if it is stated in this film how long Mothra will be in outer space completing Battra’s mission, and if so, how long?


I believe it was said the meteor was going to hit the earth in 1999 if Mothra didn't intercept it first, so she should be gone from earth for quite some time in that timeline (she's be back by now I imagine lol), which I'm sure was the filmmakers intent to explain why Mothra doesn't intervene during every giant monster attack for the rest of the Heisei Godzilla series despite being an earth guardian, she's too busy traveling through deep space.


That's the problem I'm facing in my story, ha! It takes place between 2005-2008, so surely she'd be back by now...need to come up with a good reason for her not to get involved....or figure out a way to work her in. Hmm...



She could get lost on the way back or perhaps she comes face to face with an alien threat of some sort that delays her return, or even have her be captured by said invaders.

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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Space Hunter M » Thu Mar 03, 2016 7:53 pm

Here's the famous suspension bridge bickering sequence in 9 different versions:
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby g2vd » Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:47 am

Can anybody explain why there is a old rickity bridge on that island in the first place?
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Fri Mar 04, 2016 2:37 pm

g2vd wrote:Can anybody explain why there is a old rickity bridge on that island in the first place?

The Cosmos built it, it's explained in the original Japanese version
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby g2vd » Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:05 pm

Really? I have watched the original Japanese version many times and never heard them say that they built it.

But even than why is it so freaking BIG! And how is it still around it? should be thousands of years old!
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Space Hunter M » Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:06 pm

g2vd wrote:Can anybody explain why there is a old rickity bridge on that island in the first place?

A wizard did it. Or maybe the old man from Gamera vs. Zigra built it so he could do impressions of the old man from scene 24's bridge toll mantra.
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Re: Talkback Thread #19: Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992)

Postby Rodan » Sat Mar 05, 2016 1:23 am

What the hell is going on in that (aggressively badly dubbed) Thai version? Did they leave in the original screams under the looped ones? Holy poop.


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