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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby JVM » Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:07 pm

Showa Gyaos wrote:
JVM wrote:Two films. I have only seen the Return of Godzilla version mentioned on this forum once.

He actually was considered for three:

- The Return of Godzilla -- First Draft (1980)
- Mothra vs. Bagan (1990)
- Godzilla vs. Bagan (1995)

Even though the first draft of The Return of Godzilla had an entirely different design for the creature, it still counts.

There's no similarities. It's two completely different characters, one of which is named Bagan.

By this definition, we should still be calling Zilla Godzilla.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby kaijukurt » Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:16 pm

I think Bagan was a cool creation, but he was just underused. I really liked his Super Godzilla design.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby zilla103192 » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:12 pm

JVM wrote:
Showa Gyaos wrote:
JVM wrote:Two films. I have only seen the Return of Godzilla version mentioned on this forum once.

He actually was considered for three:

- The Return of Godzilla -- First Draft (1980)
- Mothra vs. Bagan (1990)
- Godzilla vs. Bagan (1995)

Even though the first draft of The Return of Godzilla had an entirely different design for the creature, it still counts.

There's no similarities. It's two completely different characters, one of which is named Bagan.

By this definition, we should still be calling Zilla Godzilla.


um... no... im sorry JVM but your completely wrong...

all 3 are bagan... all 3 versions are TOHOs creation... and all 3 are named bagan... not one...

Zilla was made by a seperate company... thus not being called GODzilla by fans... just like the new LPG films version... wether its good or not... will be called Legendaryzilla or something of that sort...

bagan will always be bagan... no matter if hes a chimera style monster or a red demon dragon... they are technically one in the same... Toho's most famous lost monster...
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby JVM » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:09 pm

all 3 are bagan... all 3 versions are TOHOs creation... and all 3 are named bagan... not one...

I mistyped the last part. I meant 'both of which are named Bagan'. The point being though they have completely different origins and looks.

Zilla was made by a seperate company... thus not being called GODzilla by fans... just like the new LPG films version... wether its good or not... will be called Legendaryzilla or something of that sort...

Company has nothing to do with it. People didn't like Zilla so they called him GINO until Toho named it Zilla.

bagan will always be bagan... no matter if hes a chimera style monster or a red demon dragon... they are technically one in the same... Toho's most famous lost monster...

So if Toho made a movie with a giant octopus and called him Godzilla, he'd be Godzilla?
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby Showa Gyaos » Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:26 pm

JVM wrote:So if Toho made a movie with a giant octopus and called him Godzilla, he'd be Godzilla?

Of course not! An iguana is still closer to resembling Godzilla, however...
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby JVM » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:18 pm

Showa Gyaos wrote:
JVM wrote:So if Toho made a movie with a giant octopus and called him Godzilla, he'd be Godzilla?

Of course not! An iguana is still closer to resembling Godzilla, however...

My point is more so that the two Bagan variations had pretty much nothing in common as far as we can tell, so beyond the name they really are not the same monster.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:32 pm

Did anyone knew what was the role that Dogolas had in the "Godzilla vs. Bagan" movie? I think they where going to create Bagan in the movie.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:33 pm

Something I notice people never talk about besides his cocoon is his force field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG6fSNsXBBI


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Like how the hell does this even work? It's not hitting his fist shield but his body and yet he doesn't take damage, all he does is slide back a little.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby godzillafan » Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:52 am

bagan fits in the godzilla 2012 film.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby zilla103192 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:30 am

^ how so? there is no info on the monster(s) for G2012 at ALL...
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby Jamitor27 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:14 am

Living Corpse wrote:Something I notice people never talk about besides his cocoon is his force field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG6fSNsXBBI


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Like how the hell does this even work? It's not hitting his fist shield but his body and yet he doesn't take damage, all he does is slide back a little.


It's kinda funny how he looks like he laughs after the beam goes away. Kind of taunting Godzilla.

godzillafan wrote:bagan fits in the godzilla 2012 film.


I think it would be pretty cool and somewhat smart if they put him in the new movie. It basically is an original monster so new and casual fans aren't really missing out on anything. But at the same time it is a nod to hardcore fans and it will give most of them something they have wanted for years. It seems like a win-win situation to me.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby godzillafan » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:49 pm

well rogers said there will be different monsters in the movie. and we dont know the monsters thats gonna be in the movie.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:15 pm

I would like to see them make a Super Godzilla OVA if they remade Super Godzilla one day similar what Spike is doing with RB2.
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:24 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I would like to see them make a Super Godzilla OVA if they remade Super Godzilla one day similar what Spike is doing with RB2.


I actually think that would be cool. G fans who are into anime would finally get at least one G anime and while the game sucked it did have a good story so it would make for a way better OVA then a shitty game.


Speaking of Super Godzilla's story, you noticed how the game dealt a bit with cells? Biollante, King Ghidorah cells making Super Godzilla, King Ghidorah cells and Godzilla cells making Bagan even more powerful? A friend and I were play Super Godzilla last week and we noticed in the end creids when programmers came up one of them was Umbralla! :shock:

And if you play Resident Evil then you can see the lulz of a game dealing with cells having a programmer called Umbralla. :lol:
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Re: Your opinion on Bagan?

Postby Lionblaze » Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:40 pm

I like Bagan, wish he would had at least been in one movie as a foe against Godzilla.
He seems like the uber type of kaiju for some reason. For some reason I dont like the Super Godzilla look for Godzilla.
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Should Bagan comeback?

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:48 pm

Okay, Bagan has been scrapped like 3 or 4 times already right but only had one apperance in the Super Godzilla game and im pretty sure most of you wouldn't or would like to see bagan again. But wouldn't it be okay if bagan was given another chance to be on the big screen. What's your opinion?
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Re: Should Bagan comeback?

Postby Lord Gappa » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:49 pm

Legion's gonna be here any second now...
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Re: Should Bagan comeback?

Postby Legion1979 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:51 pm

Lord Gappa wrote:Legion's gonna be here any second now...


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Re: Should Bagan comeback?

Postby Dust_pan » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:52 pm

Whoever started that rumor about Bagan appearing in the LP movie were either below 15 yrs old, or a bunch of trolls. Or both.

Bagan's cool and all, but I'd rather never see him in a movie. Maybe another videogame appearance wouldn't be bad.
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Re: Dust_pan

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:55 pm

how did you know about the rumor?
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