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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby Zarm » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:08 pm

I think you mean Rege, Godzilla's foe from Godzilla 2000. :)
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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby Terasawa » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:53 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:Organizer G-1 is where Orga’s name comes from, so that’s sortve disappointing.


True, but "Organizer G-1" doesn't make much sense considering its purpose. What is it organizing? That's why Schlesinger and the TriStar crew changed it.

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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby eabaker » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:56 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:Organizer G-1 is where Orga’s name comes from, so that’s sortve disappointing.


I remember reading at the time that there was concern that Americans would associate Orga's name with the word "orgasm." No idea if there's any truth to that or not.
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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:03 pm

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LSD Jellyfish wrote:Organizer G-1 is where Orga’s name comes from, so that’s sortve disappointing.


True, but "Organizer G-1" doesn't make much sense considering its purpose. What is it organizing? That's why Schlesinger and the TriStar crew changed it.

Yeah, it’s not that I disagree with the Tristar change, it’s just sad that Orga’s Name sortve gets butchered in the process. Then again it’s never really mentioned in the film anyways. I know this is going off topic, but at one point, doesn’t one of the characters, looking at Orga, ask what it is, and then someone says”regenerator G1?”.

I guess organizing would refer to dna and RNA strand reorganizing to metaphorsize into something new.

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LSD Jellyfish wrote:Organizer G-1 is where Orga’s name comes from, so that’s sortve disappointing.


I remember reading at the time that there was concern that Americans would associate Orga's name with the word "orgasm." No idea if there's any truth to that or not.

To be honest I’d believe it.
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Postby Zarm » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:20 pm

eabaker wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:Organizer G-1 is where Orga’s name comes from, so that’s sortve disappointing.


I remember reading at the time that there was concern that Americans would associate Orga's name with the word "orgasm." No idea if there's any truth to that or not.


I always just figured it was for 'Organism'; another way of saying 'unknown lifeform'. Almost a classification (similar to 'M.U.T.O.')... until I learned about Organizer G-1. But I feel like the name can still function that way with the Regenerator G-1 change.

I just hate (similar to subbing Kiryu 'MechaG') the clear mismatch between a recognizable word on audio, and the text.
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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby eabaker » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:21 pm

Zarm wrote:I just hate (similar to subbing Kiryu 'MechaG') the clear mismatch between a recognizable word on audio, and the text.


Agreed. "MechaG" drives me particularly nuts, because it looks every bit as stupid as it sounds.
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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:27 pm

I think that’s done because Kiryu is a Japanese word, but it’s being used as a proper noun. I guess they did that because they thought we wouldn’t understand, or because the title is Godzilla X MECHGODZILLA, Not Godzilla vs Kiryu. Still dumb though, Kiryu is a Mechagodzilla, just a good way to distinguish it from the rest.
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Postby Zarm » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:41 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:I think that’s done because Kiryu is a Japanese word, but it’s being used as a proper noun. I guess they did that because they thought we wouldn’t understand, or because the title is Godzilla X MECHGODZILLA, Not Godzilla vs Kiryu. Still dumb though, Kiryu is a Mechagodzilla, just a good way to distinguish it from the rest.


What's the word mean, when it isn't a name?
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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby mikelcho » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:49 pm

mikelcho wrote:Well, I recently saw Godzilla 2000: Millennium on Sony's Blu-ray release and as far as I can tell, this film was subtitled (except for using "Regenerator G-1" instead of "Organizer G-1").
If you want more details on this, see my 1-5-19 post on the film in Talkback: Godzilla 2000: Millennium.

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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby UltramanGoji » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:57 pm

Zarm wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:I think that’s done because Kiryu is a Japanese word, but it’s being used as a proper noun. I guess they did that because they thought we wouldn’t understand, or because the title is Godzilla X MECHGODZILLA, Not Godzilla vs Kiryu. Still dumb though, Kiryu is a Mechagodzilla, just a good way to distinguish it from the rest.


What's the word mean, when it isn't a name?


"Mechanical dragon" or something to that effect.
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Re: Accurate Subtitles/"Dubtitles" thread

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:15 pm

Zarm wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:I think that’s done because Kiryu is a Japanese word, but it’s being used as a proper noun. I guess they did that because they thought we wouldn’t understand, or because the title is Godzilla X MECHGODZILLA, Not Godzilla vs Kiryu. Still dumb though, Kiryu is a Mechagodzilla, just a good way to distinguish it from the rest.


What's the word mean, when it isn't a name?

Ryu or りゅう just means dragon.
Ki or 機 means machine.

So Kiryu as states by someone else is just machine dragon. However, it should be noted that Kiryu strangely, is a popular name, for fictional protagonists and actually a Jpop musical group. I dount that’s significant, but it coincides with it as a “name status”. It’s two conjoined words not separated by の or other particles.
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