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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby Tyler » Wed Oct 12, 2011 4:22 pm

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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby tymon » Wed Oct 12, 2011 6:24 pm

Dial-up? In 2011? You must be one broke-ass Dororo.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby RyanClark » Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:21 pm

tymon wrote:Dial-up? In 2011? You must be one broke-ass Dororo.


It's still not that unusual, depending on where you live. We've only had high speed internet for the last 2 years, and even then it's not fantastic. We have to use satellite internet due to our location, and it costs over $55 a month.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby MechaGamera » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:48 am

Even here in UK were we are blocked from Goohead, the broadband coverage of the country is not 100% due to the remoteness of the Scottish Highland and Islands. Dial up still exsists.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gvamp » Thu Oct 13, 2011 4:40 am

Getting slightly off topic with the broadband thing the US is actually still lagging behind in terms of people with broadband well it was about five years ago I do know more and more places are getting it. My uncle who has a cabin out in the middle of nowhere in Michigan's Upper Pennisula has a form of DSL I don't know how good it is because when I go up there I avoid the computer.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby Tyler » Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:36 am

I live in the middle of goddamn nowhere so yeah.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gvamp » Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:14 pm

rytheman wrote:For the record. I own the set, and I have not notice any problems with the subtitles on G3.


So your disc doesn't have the issue where subbs will play a few seconds after words are being spoken?
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby omgitsgodzilla » Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:09 pm

Tohosaurus wrote:I wonder what happened. Sounds like other than the subs on G3 they've done a bang up work.

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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gojimatt » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:13 am

Just got a reply to an E-mail I sent to Mill Creek complaining about the G3 subtitles justifying there approach to the film. Don't understand how they can defend such a poor subtitle track when sentences are missing and it's so out of sync i's hard to keep up with who's saying what. Oh well doesn't sound like they'll be making a change any time soon, I still don't understand, even with the reasoning they give how the subtitles on the first two films are fine and G 3 is all messed up, it's not like there's an overabundance of dialogue in G3, they're all quite talkie.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gvamp » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:33 am

gojimatt wrote:Just got a reply to an E-mail I sent to Mill Creek complaining about the G3 subtitles justifying there approach to the film. Don't understand how they can defend such a poor subtitle track when sentences are missing and it's so out of sync i's hard to keep up with who's saying what. Oh well doesn't sound like they'll be making a change any time soon, I still don't understand, even with the reasoning they give how the subtitles on the first two films are fine and G 3 is all messed up, it's not like there's an overabundance of dialogue in G3, they're all quite talkie.


I made a post on their Facebook wall yesterday but they haven't responded yet as soon as I get a response back I'll share it here. I assume I'll get the same response you got.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gojimatt » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:08 am

I would think so. This whole situation is really starting to piss me off, the reply I got stated that the subtitles on the G3 disc are the simular to the ones found on the previous blu-ray, hmmm?! I don't recall whole sentences missing and vital plot details obscured because of crap subtitles. At one point a character replies to a question that hasn't been translated. Their reasoning for this is they can't translate every little detail (signs, captions, background dialogue) because it would fill the screen with lettering, I get that, I'm not asking for that I just want all the necessary dialogue so the film makes sense. I don't understand how my japanese DVD manages to fit in all the relevent dialogue without it filling the screen or getting out out of sync with what's happening but the Mill Creek Blu-ray can't? What is translated is virtually the same and Daiei managed to get it all in. And no matter what Mill Creek say the first Blu-ray didn't have this problem. They've made a mistake and I wish they'd admit to it instead of pretending there's nothing wrong.

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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gvamp » Fri Oct 14, 2011 3:44 am

No your complaints are resonable, they did a half assed job with the subtitling and they need to own up to it.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gojimatt » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:55 am

Thanks. I'm a little surprised they haven't owned up to it, oh well.
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Postby MechaGamera » Fri Oct 14, 2011 6:19 am

They will own up to it in a few months once they have gotten the bulk of the true sales out of the way. That is to say the people who will rush out and buy it almost instantly. It's terrible way to treat your customer but business has no loyalties to you or me they only care about your money. They don't seem to care if they do a good job or not. First class douche baggery. I noticed that there are 2 mistakes on the G1 subs though. Yet they're not on my ADV copies.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby tymon » Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:44 am

^Well in that case they're not getting my money, no matter how cheap the disc is. I'll grab a boot instead. Never thought I'd say that...
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Postby g2kmaster » Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:34 am

tymon wrote:^Well in that case they're not getting my money, no matter how cheap the disc is. I'll grab a boot instead. Never thought I'd say that...


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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby Tohosaurus » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:09 pm

gojimatt wrote:I would think so. This whole situation is really starting to piss me off, the reply I got stated that the subtitles on the G3 disc are the simular to the ones found on the previous blu-ray, hmmm?! I don't recall whole sentences missing and vital plot details obscured because of crap subtitles. At one point a character replies to a question that hasn't been translated. Their reasoning for this is they can't translate every little detail (signs, captions, background dialogue) because it would fill the screen with lettering, I get that, I'm not asking for that I just want all the necessary dialogue so the film makes sense. I don't understand how my japanese DVD manages to fit in all the relevent dialogue without it filling the screen or getting out out of sync with what's happening but the Mill Creek Blu-ray can't? What is translated is virtually the same and Daiei managed to get it all in. And no matter what Mill Creek say the first Blu-ray didn't have this problem. They've made a mistake and I wish they'd admit to it instead of pretending there's nothing wrong.

Grrrrrrrr, sorry for the rant.

Your concerns are very justified. However, as it was said by another poster, they will probably address or at least admit (and not address) the problem later on. That may be several months; that may be in a year or two, etc. I was really looking forward to this release but I think I'll hold off and see what happens. I have a lot of other movies on my To Get roster so I'll focus on those for the time being.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby The Dark Uniter » Fri Oct 14, 2011 2:45 pm

Yesterday I've told them about the subtitles and this what they had to say:
Thanks for letting us know. We are looking into it.


Link: http://www.facebook.com/MillCreekEnt/po ... ed_comment

So pretty much, it sounds like they're trying to resolve the issue.
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Re: Gamera:GotU and Gamera:AoL on Blu-ray in the US on 10/12

Postby gvamp » Fri Oct 14, 2011 4:59 pm

Personally I think the best way to send a message would be for those of you who have the release send it back to where you got it from and ask for a refund. Most retailers send defective products back to the company so if enough people send the Gamera 3 disc back then that'll give Mill Creek the message that they need to fix the issue.

I made it clear on their Facebook that I won't be buying the release until the subs are fixed on the disc.
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