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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:14 pm

The fact that he made it out of the volcano he either swam through lava or survived the eruption, and considering he made it out unscathed means that at the very least lava can't hurt him. Plus, the Fire Monster's fire, which was implied to be much hotter than lava, didn't hurt him, either.

First of all, Godzilla dove into the wall, burrowing his way out. Second of all, fire doesn't hurt to much when you can just sink into the water cause it was an aquatic battle.
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He blasted through Q's nest.

A beam that can fire through buildings and poop, taking out a small rock ledge. Veeeeery impressive. What's more impressive? A similar sized ledge holding up Toho's 1984 Godzilla and it only broke away when explosives went off. Gee.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby ZillaJr-KaijuKing » Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:22 pm

LamangoKaijura wrote:First of all, Godzilla dove into the wall, burrowing his way out.

The ledges caved in and the walls were out of reach.

LamangoKaijura wrote:Second of all, fire doesn't hurt to much when you can just sink into the water cause it was an aquatic battle.

Here, here, here, and here we see him make direct contact with the Fire Monster's flames without getting hurt during the fight that took place on land.

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He blasted through Q's nest.

A beam that can fire through buildings and poop, taking out a small rock ledge. Veeeeery impressive. What's more impressive? A similar sized ledge holding up Toho's 1984 Godzilla and it only broke away when explosives went off. Gee.

You're ignoring the rest of the feat. Why?

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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:16 am

Only going to reply to this section, cause it's the only one worthy of it, sorry.
The ledges caved in and the walls were out of reach

... For someone who is an expert on Zilla, you don't seem very knowledgable about him.
Zilla can jump. He can jump far distances. He also likes to dive into the soil and rock to burrow. Not only that, but when he was in the volcano after Queen B, he was on several rock outlettes inside the lava flow. Not only did he have the option to do a leaping burrowing dive, but he also could have just simply, tunneled his way out of the volcano.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby ZillaJr-KaijuKing » Mon Feb 22, 2016 5:17 am

LamangoKaijura wrote:Only going to reply to this section, cause it's the only one worthy of it, sorry.
The ledges caved in and the walls were out of reach

... For someone who is an expert on Zilla, you don't seem very knowledgable about him.
Zilla can jump. He can jump far distances. He also likes to dive into the soil and rock to burrow. Not only that, but when he was in the volcano after Queen B, he was on several rock outlettes inside the lava flow. Not only did he have the option to do a leaping burrowing dive, but he also could have just simply, tunneled his way out of the volcano.

He's done leaping burrows through the ground, but I don't remember him being able to defy gravity long enough to do so through a vertical wall. Plus, if they were in a lava chamber, it's entirely possible there was more magma underground.

It's irrelevant anyway because he's already tanked worse than lava.

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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:19 pm

But was taken out by less then lava. Many times. Look, I love Toonzilla as much as I love the Showa Godzilla, but there's a lot of things that play up to the weaknesses more then strengths.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby ZillaJr-KaijuKing » Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:57 pm

LamangoKaijura wrote:But was taken out by less then lava. Many times.

No, he was never taken out by anything less than lava.

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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Thu Feb 25, 2016 12:40 am

ZillaJr-KaijuKing wrote:
LamangoKaijura wrote:But was taken out by less then lava. Many times.

No, he was never taken out by anything less than lava.

Scorpion venom.
Getting hit with a bomb.
Electricity.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby ZillaJr-KaijuKing » Thu Feb 25, 2016 4:22 am

LamangoKaijura wrote:Scorpion venom.
Getting hit with a bomb.
Electricity.

Chemical weapons and electricity are entirely different forms of damage. Conventional chemical explosives can reach temperatures as high as 5000 degrees C compared to lava's 600-1200 degrees C in addition to impact and fragmentation.

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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby Birdman » Fri Feb 26, 2016 1:38 pm

I didn't know Toonzilla had regeneration!
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Fri Feb 26, 2016 4:37 pm

Birdman wrote:I didn't know Toonzilla had regeneration!

Very very slow regen. It was mentioned in like, one episode. When he got stung by Teh-Se-Go.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby ZillaJr-KaijuKing » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:30 am

LamangoKaijura wrote:Very very slow regen. It was mentioned in like, one episode. When he got stung by Teh-Se-Go.

There are at least 3 instances of him regenerating from near death to full strength in the span of a few seconds.

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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Sat Feb 27, 2016 6:26 pm

I assume one of those is the Medusa incident? That wasn't regen. That was legit dehydration and Zilla just drinking.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby Tomzilla » Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:28 pm

LamangoKaijura wrote:I assume one of those is the Medusa incident? That wasn't regen. That was legit dehydration and Zilla just drinking.


Did you know dehydration hinders the healing process? It's why Toonzilla's body was almost instantly restored the moment he started drinking water again. In other words, unless you think the water somehow granted Toonzilla super regenerative abilities, it stands as a very impressive regenerative feat.

Then there's the time we saw Toonzilla heal a nasty wound right before our eyes. It happened in his fight against Ts-eh-Go, the giant scorpion. When it comes to healing superficial wounds, Toonzilla's regeneration is better than Heisei Godzilla's.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Tue Mar 01, 2016 2:47 am

Yeah, the wound that remained open until he was soaked in the venom sucking mud... And please, vine spear spewing acid through the hand and instantly healed with in seconds is somehow less impressive then...drinking water...
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby ZillaJr-KaijuKing » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:09 am

LamangoKaijura wrote:Yeah, the wound that remained open until he was soaked in the venom sucking mud ... And please, vine spear spewing acid through the hand and instantly healed with in seconds is somehow less impressive then...drinking water...

Because that's how long it took to extract the acid countering his regeneration...

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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby Tomzilla » Tue Mar 01, 2016 10:03 am

LamangoKaijura wrote:Yeah, the wound that remained open until he was soaked in the venom sucking mud...


What's your point? To-eh-Go's venom was neutralizing Toonzilla's regeneration. After the mud removed the venom, Toonzilla's cells healed the damage within seconds.

And please, vine spear spewing acid through the hand and instantly healed with in seconds is somehow less impressive then...drinking water...


Heisei Godzilla's regeneration feat is most certainly impressive. However, that doesn't excuse your poor attempt to misrepresent my point. Medusa severely dehydrated Toonzilla, as depicted by my screen captures. After drinking water, Toonzilla's entire body regenerated the damage within seconds.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:28 pm

Then those humans Medusa dehydrated and were blasted with water must have Toonzilla's same regeneration! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW, TOM
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby Birdman » Tue Mar 01, 2016 11:36 pm

LamangoKaijura wrote:Then those humans Medusa dehydrated and were blasted with water must have Toonzilla's same regeneration! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW, TOM

I think we can put the humans instantly recovering from dehydration down to 'lazy writing' as opposed to some actual feat.
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby LamangoKaijura » Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:13 am

Birdman wrote:
LamangoKaijura wrote:Then those humans Medusa dehydrated and were blasted with water must have Toonzilla's same regeneration! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW, TOM

I think we can put the humans instantly recovering from dehydration down to 'lazy writing' as opposed to some actual feat.

Oh but not Zilla's?
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Re: Respect Toonzilla

Postby Birdman » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:26 am

LamangoKaijura wrote:
Birdman wrote:
LamangoKaijura wrote:Then those humans Medusa dehydrated and were blasted with water must have Toonzilla's same regeneration! IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW, TOM

I think we can put the humans instantly recovering from dehydration down to 'lazy writing' as opposed to some actual feat.

Oh but not Zilla's?

Humans and giant monsters are two separate things. Though this dehydration thing is becoming something of interest. Both the people and Toonzilla recovered using the exact same method in the exact same space of time, so it's hard to tell if Toonzilla's instant rehydration is a notable feat, or the result of lazy 90's writing.
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