King of Showa R1 - Gomora vs. Barugon

[Mac Daddy MM]

Gomora

vs.

Barugon

Arena: Sea World Japan (Gamera vs. Zigra)

Rules: Monsters are scaled to Toho Showa sizes. Ultra Color Timers are turned off. Please POST YOUR VOTES IN BOLD.

Player Bets
- Tomzilla (100 Points on Barugon)

[Tomzilla]

Barugon's Freezing Mist and Rainbow Ray gives him a serious tactical advantage. His attacks are not only very dangerous, but they also have incredible range and accuracy. I can't see Gomora winning, let alone making it out alive.

[LamangoKaijura]

...Fucking really? Barugon freezes Gomora and that's it. Gomora doesn't have a internal heater like Gamera does to thaw out or protect him from freezing completely over. Barugon

[Inferno Rodan]

Gomora doesn't have a internal heater like Gamera does to thaw out or protect him from freezing completely over.

It was specifically stated in the movie that Gamera was weak to freezing temperatures, though. If anything, the mist was more effective on him than it would be on the average monster.

[Tomzilla]

Gomora doesn't have a internal heater like Gamera does to thaw out or protect him from freezing completely over.

It was specifically stated in the movie that Gamera was weak to freezing temperatures, though. If anything, the mist was more effective on him than it would be on the average monster.

Yet Gamera's power source is a plasma furnace and he flies through the vacuum of space just fine without freezing to death. Barugon's Freezing Mist also blew out Gamera's flamethrower like a candle before it froze Gamera. Are there any examples of Barugon's Freezing Mist not being impressive?

[LamangoKaijura]

Gomora doesn't have a internal heater like Gamera does to thaw out or protect him from freezing completely over.

It was specifically stated in the movie that Gamera was weak to freezing temperatures, though. If anything, the mist was more effective on him than it would be on the average monster.

Yet Gamera's power source is a plasma furnace and he flies through the vacuum of space just fine without freezing to death. Barugon's Freezing Mist also blew out Gamera's flamethrower like a candle before it froze Gamera. Are there any examples of Barugon's Freezing Mist not being impressive?

There's one that bugs me, when Barugon walks by a part of the city, he's not facing it, yet it froze somehow.

It was specifically stated in the movie that Gamera was weak to freezing temperatures, though. If anything, the mist was more effective on him than it would be on the average monster

So you're saying a monster dinosaur like Gomora, who is from the tropics of some South America country, won't flinch to Barugon's mist? Good to know.

[Inferno Rodan]

Yet Gamera's power source is a plasma furnace and he flies through the vacuum of space just fine without freezing to death.

Space is only cold in the technical sense. Because it's a vacuum, there's nothing to conduct heat away from an object. A body would probably get cold faster on a chilly winter day in Florida than it would in space.

https://www.quora.com/How-long-would-it ... uter-space

Barugon's Freezing Mist also blew out Gamera's flamethrower like a candle before it froze Gamera.

This... has nothing to do with temperature. All that means is it smothered the flames like a fire extinguisher (which is fitting, since I'm pretty sure compressed CO2 is literally what was used for the mist anyway).

Are there any examples of Barugon's Freezing Mist not being impressive?

So you're saying a monster dinosaur like Gomora, who is from the tropics of some South America country, won't flinch to Barugon's mist? Good to know.

Jesus people, stop reading what isn't said. All I said was that the mist would be less effective against an average monster than it was against Gamera because he's specifically weak to cold temperatures. As in, your average monster wouldn't be paralyzed and collapse from just a couple seconds of exposure like Gamera was.

[LamangoKaijura]

Gomora isn't going to enjoy the ice mist, IR. And that must mean those things INSTANTLY FROZEN BY BARUGON like PLANES AND TANKS, are weak to cold too?

[Coobzilla03]

My vote goes to Barugon because Gomora, being cold-blooded (right?), won't like the mist.

[MoarCrossovers]

Gomora is labeled as a dinosaur, ergo he is warm blooded. This still doesn't change the fact that Barugon will turn his prehistoric ass into a Popsicle

[Coobzilla03]

Gomora is labeled as a dinosaur, ergo he is warm blooded.

Looks to me dinosaurs were neither warm or cold-blooded, but hey, he still freezes.

[Inferno Rodan]

Gomora isn't going to enjoy the ice mist, IR.

Are you having problems with reading comprehension? For the third time now, all I'm saying is that it will be LESS EFFECTIVE against him than it was against Gamera. Nowhere did I say, or even imply, that it would not effect him at all. Of COURSE he's not going to like it. But it won't drop him like a ton of bricks with just a couple seconds of exposure like it did to Gamera, either.

And that must mean those things INSTANTLY FROZEN BY BARUGON like PLANES AND TANKS, are weak to cold too?

Considering metal doesn't freeze in the first place (or more specifically, it's already "frozen", aka in its solid state, at normal temperatures), the scene where the fighter jets crumble apart like ice doesn't make any sense anyway. But that's not really relevant. Yes, planes and tanks are absolutely easier to incapacitate with freezing spray than a giant goddamn monster. Simple ice buildup from flying in freezing rain or through clouds in cold areas is a very serious problem and can cause planes to crash, for Gwangi's sake.

[Tomzilla]

Welcome to my Concession Stand. Would you like any snacks or beverages with that?

Space is only cold in the technical sense. Because it's a vacuum, there's nothing to conduct heat away from an object. A body would probably get cold faster on a chilly winter day in Florida than it would in space.

https://www.quora.com/How-long-would-it ... uter-space

I see. Thank you for the info.

This... has nothing to do with temperature. All that means is it smothered the flames like a fire extinguisher (which is fitting, since I'm pretty sure compressed CO2 is literally what was used for the mist anyway).

Conceded.

Jesus people, stop reading what isn't said. All I said was that the mist would be less effective against an average monster than it was against Gamera because he's specifically weak to cold temperatures. As in, your average monster wouldn't be paralyzed and collapse from just a couple seconds of exposure like Gamera was.

I apologize for misinterpreting your words. I meant no disrespect.

I'm still not buying this claim that Gamera has a specific weakness to cold. I know it was stated in one of the films, but I feel like the Showa films retconned that line. After all, wasn't Gamera sleeping in Antarctica at the beginning of the series? The cold there didn't seem to bother him. Like I wrote before, Gamera is powered by plasma, so it's hard for me to believe he's really weak to cold.

[Inferno Rodan]

Welcome to my Concession Stand. Would you like any snacks or beverages with that?

Doritos and Sprite, pls.

I'm still not buying this claim that Gamera has a specific weakness to cold. I know it was stated in one of the films, but I feel like the Showa films retconned that line. After all, wasn't Gamera sleeping in Antarctica at the beginning of the series? The cold there didn't seem to bother him. Like I wrote before, Gamera is powered by plasma, so it's hard for me to believe he's really weak to cold.

The problem is that it was GvsBarugon where the cold weakness was stated, so, much like Godzilla's weakness to electricity in KKvsG, it's specifically relevant in that film despite it not being the case at other points in the series.