A new Showa canon film?

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Look, this doesn’t seem to be the direction Godzilla is heading, but let’s just entertain the notion for the fun of it.

Would you be game for a continuation of the Showa series? What would you want it to be like? A 60s or 70s period piece? A present-day sequel to Destroy All Monsters? Let’s chat about this!

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Doubt it'd work. At most a Ultraman styled tv show I guess could work, but they'd end up overusing the human characters to the point where Godzilla would become a side character.
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I'd love a 60's/70's period piece Godzilla film. Something with a simple plot that pays homage to Honda's works would be fantastic.

I've also always loved the idea of a comedy about the making of Godzilla 54 in the style of films like The Disaster Artist.
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LockBite wrote:Look, this doesn’t seem to be the direction Godzilla is heading, but let’s just entertain the notion for the fun of it.

Would you be game for a continuation of the Showa series? What would you want it to be like? A 60s or 70s period piece? A present-day sequel to Destroy All Monsters? Let’s chat about this!
Unless we could magically resurrect a lot of the 60s and 70s directors I wouldn’t want this. While I like it, we pretty much already saw what a showa film in the millennium would like in the form of GFW. Unless it has real love and care poured into it, there’s no point in continuing the showa series, especially because it was the series with the most entries.

I think what people mean when they say they want a continuation of the showa series, is that they want a film that is stylistically similar to films like GTTHM or GVMG, with sound stages and fantastic music, as well as Japanese fashion nostalgia.
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What about sort of a soft reboot? It could take place today, maybe post-DAM, maybe not, and the world features things like a long established Monster Island, Showa-esque designs and monster menagerie. There could be sort of a vague, general idea that all these crazy events have taken place over the years, maybe with some specific references to "that time Godziller and Jet Jaguar fought off the Seatopian invasion" or whatever... but, just like the actual Showa era, nothing is really set in stone and the filmmakers can take whatever liberties they want or need to, within reason.
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FW was definitely not a modern Showa film in my opinion, even though it had golden age actors. I absolutely love the Showa era, and films like Shin have that imaginative, ambitious feel that a good portion of Showa films captured.

Leave the Showa Era where it is, as it will most definitely continue to inspire the rest of the franchise. Hire great filmmakers that are hungry to tell a high quality story, and this franchise will reign supreme over time.
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:FW was definitely not a modern Showa film in my opinion, even though it had golden age actors. I absolutely love the Showa era, and films like Shin have that imaginative, ambitious feel that a good portion of Showa films captured.
Stylistically Godzilla Final Wars is precisely of its hyperactive xtreme mid-oughts cultural moment. To whatever degree it was reflective of the Showa era, it was in a snarky, condescending way, far more affectation and maybe even parody than continuation or faithful pastiche.

I had a similar thought about Shin. It was tonally reminiscent of early Showa flicks like Gojira and Rodan, while still telling its own distinctly contemporary story.
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I've always felt that Godzilla 2000, or at least the American cut of it, always felt somewhat like a modern Showa film. Never got that vibe from GFW.
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They should make movies that re-visit older continuities generally speaking.

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They should only reference the origin films for their respective kaiju: meaning Mothra, Gojira, Rodan, Garantuas, etc. Have the origin films well established, then move forward.
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Maritonic wrote:They should only reference the origin films for their respective kaiju: meaning Mothra, Gojira, Rodan, Garantuas, etc. Have the origin films well established, then move forward.
I’d be fine with this, but that’s basically what a majority of the millennium series did to a degree
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I guess you could say Godzilla X Mechagodzilla and Godzilla Tokyo SOS kind of did that. The back story for those films cherry picked some films (Gojira 54, Mothra, and War of the Gargantuas) to use to explain how the world is the way it is (with any films not mentioned being assumed to be non canon)

But man, if they just dovetailed off of Terror of Mechagodzilla and picked up in the modern age with an aged superhero Godzilla and give the King his version of Old Man Logan....I would strangely be okay with that.
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LSD Jellyfish wrote:
Maritonic wrote:They should only reference the origin films for their respective kaiju: meaning Mothra, Gojira, Rodan, Garantuas, etc. Have the origin films well established, then move forward.
I’d be fine with this, but that’s basically what a majority of the millennium series did to a degree
I should be more clear: I meant more like in the Heisei style where '84 went forward from Gojira. This new series could start with Mothra, Rodan, Gojira, all the "origin" solo outings behind it, and have the continuity branch from there. Not have each film start from that point.
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Maritonic wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:
Maritonic wrote:They should only reference the origin films for their respective kaiju: meaning Mothra, Gojira, Rodan, Garantuas, etc. Have the origin films well established, then move forward.
I’d be fine with this, but that’s basically what a majority of the millennium series did to a degree
I should be more clear: I meant more like in the Heisei style where '84 went forward from Gojira. This new series could start with Mothra, Rodan, Gojira, all the "origin" solo outings behind it, and have the continuity branch from there. Not have each film start from that point.
Yeah, one thing I liked about the Showa movies starting in the early 60s was how much the existence of the monsters was just a given from the outset of the story.
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This may sound a little weird, but I would like a movie that tells the end of Zone Fighter. This would be cool, but lets be honest it will never happen. -_-

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UltramanGoji wrote:
I've also always loved the idea of a comedy about the making of Godzilla 54 in the style of films like The Disaster Artist.
I apologize for quoting a weeks old post but this has to be one of the most brilliant ideas I’ve ever heard.

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I don’t know what’s preventing Toho from re-visiting older continuities.

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It's far easier to make a film without having the restraints of previous ones' stories to keep track of.
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LegendZilla wrote:I don’t know what’s preventing Toho from re-visiting older continuities.
The general audience? Potential new fans?
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LegendZilla wrote:I don’t know what’s preventing Toho from re-visiting older continuities.
They did with the Kiryu films.

I think most filmmakers don’t want to go backwards when they could create something new. These are creative people more than fans. That’s why Tezuka, who’s a huge fan, is the only one to loosely continue from films made when he was a child.
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