Re: The future of Godzilla anime
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 9:17 pm
If we get a Shin sequel, it should be done as an anime by Anno.
I could not disagree more.PitchBlackProgress wrote:If we get a Shin sequel, it should be done as an anime by Anno.
Yeah boiling down a series to the most generic monster of the week format with cliche characters sounds like an amazing idea!Godzillian wrote:Japan couldn learn a thing or two from Godzilla The Series when it comes to animated kaiju
I mean, it's not like the anime films are doing any better.LSD Jellyfish wrote:Yeah boiling down a series to the most generic monster of the week format with cliche characters sounds like an amazing idea!Godzillian wrote:Japan couldn learn a thing or two from Godzilla The Series when it comes to animated kaiju
While the first film is basically expository, and the second film is a bit disappointing in the monster regard, a lot of people do really like the second one (myself being part of the crowd) and the third one looks really promising. They’ve ditched a monster of the week plot with good. Character writing.UltramanGoji wrote:I mean, it's not like the anime films are doing any better.LSD Jellyfish wrote:Yeah boiling down a series to the most generic monster of the week format with cliche characters sounds like an amazing idea!Godzillian wrote:Japan couldn learn a thing or two from Godzilla The Series when it comes to animated kaiju
FanficTitanoterror98 wrote:I just need to interrupt this lovely thread for a dumb question: Suppose somebody had some silly ideas for their own anime. Would they post them here or somewhere in the fanfiction forums?
Thanks!PitchBlackProgress wrote:FanficTitanoterror98 wrote:I just need to interrupt this lovely thread for a dumb question: Suppose somebody had some silly ideas for their own anime. Would they post them here or somewhere in the fanfiction forums?
100% this. I don't have a problem with the more vague portrayal in Shin Godzilla where his motivations are alien and unclear, and his actions cannot be explained properly, but this portrayel has gotten incredibly bland and stale in the anime trilogy, to the point where he barely feels like an actual character and more like an inanimate obstacle the main characters have to overcome.Desghidorah wrote:I think one thing to definitely keep in mind is to not just retread over what they already done. Godzilla is a character that can work at a very broad range, but I feel that all the Japanese products of him lately can be boiled down to, "big unstoppable wall that slowly walks forward and shoots beams while having extremely vague motivations."
Interpretation is perfectly fine, I just feel like we need some variety.
Make that a 110% this!Dv-218 wrote:100% this. I don't have a problem with the more vague portrayal in Shin Godzilla where his motivations are alien and unclear, and his actions cannot be explained properly, but this portrayel has gotten incredibly bland and stale in the anime trilogy, to the point where he barely feels like an actual character and more like an inanimate obstacle the main characters have to overcome.Desghidorah wrote:I think one thing to definitely keep in mind is to not just retread over what they already done. Godzilla is a character that can work at a very broad range, but I feel that all the Japanese products of him lately can be boiled down to, "big unstoppable wall that slowly walks forward and shoots beams while having extremely vague motivations."
Interpretation is perfectly fine, I just feel like we need some variety.
If there will be more attempts at a Godzilla anime in the future, I would love to see a Godzilla that's more..."alive", so to speak.
Gotta agree. Shin Godzilla (the movie) was more of a political thriller/drama film in a pretty realistic setting with Shin Godzilla (the kaiju) being more a catalyst to the events around him than the core of the movie. So for that, even if I myself would have liked him to have been more active, it works just fine.Titanoterror98 wrote:Make that a 110% this!Dv-218 wrote:100% this. I don't have a problem with the more vague portrayal in Shin Godzilla where his motivations are alien and unclear, and his actions cannot be explained properly, but this portrayel has gotten incredibly bland and stale in the anime trilogy, to the point where he barely feels like an actual character and more like an inanimate obstacle the main characters have to overcome.Desghidorah wrote:I think one thing to definitely keep in mind is to not just retread over what they already done. Godzilla is a character that can work at a very broad range, but I feel that all the Japanese products of him lately can be boiled down to, "big unstoppable wall that slowly walks forward and shoots beams while having extremely vague motivations."
Interpretation is perfectly fine, I just feel like we need some variety.
If there will be more attempts at a Godzilla anime in the future, I would love to see a Godzilla that's more..."alive", so to speak.
I think that has to be the most important thing any future animation projects should remember. The ability to explore a character solely through their appearance and body language is one of the greatest strengths of animation. So seeing this ability squandard on Godzilla Earth (and Filius) is just such a waste, especially with such an inspired design. Not even close up shots of his eyes do anything to contribute to his character outside of "Big Scary Plot Device oooOOOooo." I agree with Desghidorah about Shin-Godzilla because it was designed to be terrifying monstrosity evoking the terror of nuclear disaster--I don't expect him to mugging at the camera or doing his Trademark Happy Dance. The designers of G-Earth said he was supposed to evoke wisdom, but all I get from seeing him in action is just a general feeling of menace and... largeness, I guess.
Again, I couldn't agree more! (Sorry I took so long to reply; I was just thinking about how to responsd and then I got sidetracked by, well, life.)Desghidorah wrote:Gotta agree. Shin Godzilla (the movie) was more of a political thriller/drama film in a pretty realistic setting with Shin Godzilla (the kaiju) being more a catalyst to the events around him than the core of the movie. So for that, even if I myself would have liked him to have been more active, it works just fine.Titanoterror98 wrote:Make that a 110% this!Dv-218 wrote:
100% this. I don't have a problem with the more vague portrayal in Shin Godzilla where his motivations are alien and unclear, and his actions cannot be explained properly, but this portrayel has gotten incredibly bland and stale in the anime trilogy, to the point where he barely feels like an actual character and more like an inanimate obstacle the main characters have to overcome.
If there will be more attempts at a Godzilla anime in the future, I would love to see a Godzilla that's more..."alive", so to speak.
I think that has to be the most important thing any future animation projects should remember. The ability to explore a character solely through their appearance and body language is one of the greatest strengths of animation. So seeing this ability squandard on Godzilla Earth (and Filius) is just such a waste, especially with such an inspired design. Not even close up shots of his eyes do anything to contribute to his character outside of "Big Scary Plot Device oooOOOooo." I agree with Desghidorah about Shin-Godzilla because it was designed to be terrifying monstrosity evoking the terror of nuclear disaster--I don't expect him to mugging at the camera or doing his Trademark Happy Dance. The designers of G-Earth said he was supposed to evoke wisdom, but all I get from seeing him in action is just a general feeling of menace and... largeness, I guess.
But these anime films seem to want to focus on Godzilla more and in an animated format they are not as restricted by limitations of live-action films like more detailed CGI needing to match the scenery or safety for the suitmation actors.