How could Toho make Godzilla even "weirder"? What new directions might they go in after 2020?

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Re: How could Toho make Godzilla even "weirder"? What new directions might they go in after 2020?

Postby Gailah 1966 » Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:37 am

Gerdzerl wrote:As the title above says, assuming the next Toho Godzilla incarnation after 2020 is 'nontraditional', like the incarnations featured in Shin Godzilla and the GODZILLA anime trilogy, how could they top Godzilla Earth's origins as a plant-based lifeform? I'm not entirely sure myself, but, off the top of my head, here are a bunch of ideas for directions they might possibly (emphasis on might possibly, none of these are actually likely at all) go in:

Godzilla as a mammal.
Godzilla being female instead of male.
Godzilla as a dragon.
Godzilla as an alien.
Godzilla as a demon.
Godzilla as a genetically-engineered creature.
Godzilla as an intangible, ghostly nature spirit instead of a physical being.
Godzilla being a shapeshifter.
Godzilla as a magical being/explicitly having magic-based powers.
Godzilla having feathers/being bird-like.
Godzilla not being able to swim.
Godzilla not having atomic breath/dorsal plates/a tail.
Godzilla having more than four limbs and/or multiple heads.
Godzilla having wings/being able to fly in a way other than how he did in Godzilla vs. Hedorah.
Godzilla being able to speak fluently and have conversations with human characters.
Godzilla making and/or using tools and/or technology.
Godzilla being much shorter in height than 50 meters.
Godzilla having a color palette nobody was expecting for him, such as pink skin and a yellow atomic breath.
Godzilla having a completely new roar that sounds nothing like any of his previous roars.

Again, I seriously doubt that Toho would do any of the above, these are just examples.

What do you guys think they might do, assuming they decide to make another "weird" Godzilla?


You listed some nice ideas there but I think there is only one true way TOHO will go. And this will be: BACK TO THE ROOTS!
A normal sized kaiju and normal sized enemys combined with emotional interaction with humans (human lead characters like Miki in the Heisei series)
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Postby tyrantgoji » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:11 pm

I still like the alien Godzilla concept. The genetically engineered one i wouldn't mind also since that's what his origin was suppose to be in the lost 94 draft.

The rest of them though? get that outta here! :P

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Postby Stump Feet » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:15 pm

Godzilla as a living mushroom cloud :P
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Postby _JNavs_ » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:43 pm

Make Godzilla a dying old pissed off human Vet who receives no respect for his years of service, as soon as he dies, he has raw putrid hate, a "Godzilla" grow out of his stomach like some massive tumor, eventually growing to Godzilla proportions. Maybe for extra gross-out factor, add the vets corpse to Godzilla's overall design, implying the hatred completely consumed said person, eventually having his corpse fall off Godzilla, ""like a turd in the wind"

Building off that GMK/Nasty Shin vibe.
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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:32 pm

Stump Feet wrote:Godzilla as a living mushroom cloud :P

https://www.tohokingdom.com/concept_art ... ad_01.html
There`s precedent. I honestly wouldn't be against making a Godzilla more like this in the future.
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Postby Stump Feet » Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:36 pm

That’s one of my favorite pieces of concept art, reminds me of that old monster Pumpkinhead from the 80’s.

I imagine a Godzilla-esq. shaped mushroom cloud that brings atomic hellfire to whatever it touches. Basically a living detonating nuke.
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Postby Komenja » Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:52 pm

Adapt that "Monster Warrior Godzilla" story from that one anthology manga. Y'know, this
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Postby Olzh26 » Thu Aug 22, 2019 4:03 am

I am conservative in this case. Shin and anime were weird as much as possible. go beyond this is not worth it, in my opinion. but I don't mind the little ones
and interesting additions to the classic look. for example, make Godzilla a more sea monster, with a tail fin like whales
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Postby Dynomy-DX » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:14 am

I like the idea of a genetically engineered Godzilla, or one who can make/use tools and technology. I’ll be fine with whatever Godzilla we get next to be honest, as long as it’s a good movie that does the character justice.
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Postby Rodan95 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 8:19 pm

I think a Political-war genre MECHAGODZILLA solo movie would be dope. Maybe a Terrorist attack on Tokyo where the Terrorists use Mechagodzilla to destroy the world. In the end, Godzilla shows up in the 3rd act, Kills the terrorists cause they attacked Godzilla. Maybe make the story in the future, and make the effects colorful (like Blade runner 2049). Could be dope. Imagine a Godzilla movie in the Bladerunner universe. That would be the tone of it.

Also, maybe a Hard-R rated "Gigan" Origin story that is set in space. We SEE Gigan using is buzzsaw on people and makes it stupidly bloody and terrifying. The score of the movie is similar to heavy metal music and the movie ends with Gigan massacre the characters and heads to earth. IF any kaiju would try the R-rating system, Gigan would work...even tho Japan doesnt give a poop about the American rating system lol

Last, a JET JAGUAR movie with he lives among people and it's more a action-comedy. TOHO monsters do appear.

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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:32 pm

Rodan95 wrote:Also, maybe a Hard-R rated "Gigan" Origin story that is set in space. We SEE Gigan using is buzzsaw on people and makes it stupidly bloody and terrifying. The score of the movie is similar to heavy metal music and the movie ends with Gigan massacre the characters and heads to earth. IF any kaiju would try the R-rating system, Gigan would work...

no

Rodan95 wrote:even tho Japan doesnt give a poop about the American rating system lol

yep

All for your Jet Jaguar idea tho.
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Postby Ultraman02 » Mon Aug 26, 2019 9:59 pm

Godzilla as an alien would be cool.
I don't really want a sequel to Shin Godzilla.
In a super jet he comes
From a billion miles AWAY!
From a DISTANT PLANET LAND!
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Postby Eel221 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:52 am

Ultraman02 wrote:Godzilla as an alien would be cool.


Check out "A Space Godzilla"

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Postby Ultraman02 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:47 pm

Eel221 wrote:
Ultraman02 wrote:Godzilla as an alien would be cool.


Check out "A Space Godzilla"

That is probably the weirdest Godzilla story out there.
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Postby LSD Jellyfish » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:07 pm

Eel221 wrote:
Ultraman02 wrote:Godzilla as an alien would be cool.


Check out "A Space Godzilla"

I think something like that would be the only way I'd like an alien Godzilla to be. When I hear the word alien a lot of bad things come into my mind.
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Rodan95 wrote:The Shobijin are sat on by a fatass explorer and killed. Mothra is pissed and destroys Japan.

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Postby AllosaurHell » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:34 pm

A Space Godzilla made me question whether or not I was high on drugs or if someone put drugs in my food prior to reading it, I'm just happy it didn't get made because it probably would have been so bad that we'd consider Godzilla's Revenge a masterpiece in comparison.
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Postby Living Corpse » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:22 pm

AllosaurHell wrote:A Space Godzilla made me question whether or not I was high on drugs or if someone put drugs in my food prior to reading it, I'm just happy it didn't get made because it probably would have been so bad that we'd consider Godzilla's Revenge a masterpiece in comparison.


Bride of Godzilla will make you think you had a stroke while reading it.
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Postby AllosaurHell » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:17 am

Living Corpse wrote:
AllosaurHell wrote:A Space Godzilla made me question whether or not I was high on drugs or if someone put drugs in my food prior to reading it, I'm just happy it didn't get made because it probably would have been so bad that we'd consider Godzilla's Revenge a masterpiece in comparison.


Bride of Godzilla will make you think you had a stroke while reading it.

Oh I read it, it's up there with A Space Godzilla for worst Godzilla films ever despite thankfully never been made. God's Angry Messenger is honestly not that bad in my opinion, it's super weird but it's the weird I love.
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Postby Living Corpse » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:20 am

AllosaurHell wrote:
Living Corpse wrote:
AllosaurHell wrote:A Space Godzilla made me question whether or not I was high on drugs or if someone put drugs in my food prior to reading it, I'm just happy it didn't get made because it probably would have been so bad that we'd consider Godzilla's Revenge a masterpiece in comparison.


Bride of Godzilla will make you think you had a stroke while reading it.

Oh I read it, it's up there with A Space Godzilla for worst Godzilla films ever despite thankfully never been made. God's Angry Messenger is honestly not that bad in my opinion, it's super weird but it's the weird I love.


Godzilla vs Varan throw me for a loop, if for no other reason than Varan goes from nobody to being straight on the beast of revelations who will bring the end of the world.
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Postby Ultraman02 » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:20 am

Living Corpse wrote:Godzilla vs Varan throw me for a loop, if for no other reason than Varan goes from nobody to being straight on the beast of revelations who will bring the end of the world.

They could redesign Varan to make him look more demonic?
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