75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

[ebirahsmeg1]

Who cares? And why? Why does anyone give a shit about this?

"Is 75 Goji stronger than 99 Goji?"

WHO. CARES.

What does the answer to that question solve? What does it accomplish? Nothing. And why does anyone want to ask such a question? The real answer should be obvious to all.

The story of DAM takes place in the future, but the actual movie was made in the late 60's, so it reflects the style of those movies. This is why Godzilla fights differently, because the styles of these movies changed over REAL TIME, not movie time.

See how easy that was? Why cant people deduce such simple answers to their own random questions themselves?

I sweat to God, it's one thing if someone has a genuine question that warrants some kind of serious discussion, but nowadays it seems people will post any old random thought they have and expect everyone else to just roll with it. And the worst part is, people do!

"I dont know. What if Bagan really WAS in Godzilla vs King Ghidorah!?"

Next thing ya know, people are gonna start asking questions like "why does Godzilla look different in every movie? Is there more than one Godzilla in Japan?"

I know it sounds like I'm going off on a random-ass tangent, but this really has been buggin' me for quite a while.

Some questions are best kept to yourself.

One of the best posts I've read in awhile, and couldn't have said better myself. Once in awhile these kinds of discussions can be interesting...but usually, it just becomes utterly pointless, silly, and childish (Gee, what if Destroyah was in King Kong vs Godzilla???! ) Instead of people posting brand new threads for these kinds of questions, why not just post these questions in an existing thread or fantasy battles section?

As for who would "win" in a battle between G75 and G99....neither, as the GIANT CONDOR!!! would swoop in and defeat them both....

[Svitska Donkun]

I generally just ignore that DAM takes place in 1999, because the filmmakers did too, evidently.

[JVM]

(Removed because I'm a pussy.)

[tymon]

I don't even know why people even bother thinking about continuity in the Showa era, much less discussing it. The people making these films wanted us to enjoy each individual feature as it is, and didn't care so much about things making sense or tying up nicely.

[Hellspawn28]

The film states that DAM takes place in 1999, I go by narrator what said when it comes to fiction. DAM was made in 1968, no one at the time what the 1990's would be like. Look at 2001: A Space Oddessy (Came out the same year as DAM) and how both Arthur C. Clarke and Kubrick thought the year 2001 was going to be like. I even remember Gene Roddenberry used to thought that World War III would happen in the 1990's.


I'm pretty sure the 70's Showa movies take place in the 70's and no proof that states that they take place in the future.

[JVM]

(Removed because I'm a pussy.)

[TokyoVigilante]

I generally just ignore that DAM takes place in 1999, because the filmmakers did too, evidently.

Bravo, Donkun, I totally agree with this actually.

I'm not even sure why we go to such an extra mile to keep the following six films behind it. Even though DAM technically takes place in the future, and yes, it is made a BFD about it being 1999, the actual years don't come up a ton in the other films, and it's been pointed out before we see military advancements from DAM reappear in future films. The only real supporting reason I see to set it in the future is Ghidorah's re-appearance in GvG, but mind you, the early drafts of Gigan went out to resurrect him, so it seems clear to me the intention was to keep the timeline in order of release.

Sometimes I think the fan insistence on putting DAM in 1999 creates a lot more continuity errors than it's worth.

What possible advantages could swamping the films around accomplish? What are you creatively achieving? What continuity errors are you solving by blatantly disregarding times and dates provided by the films? If you think this is a perfectly reasonable and logical thing to do, then why aren't you more actively promoting the idea that any Godzilla film can take place at any time in any continuity?

"No, it's OK young fans. Godzilla 2000 can happen after Godzilla vs. Gigan because it feels right!"

All this is is allowing confusion to run rampant in a franchise that already has a language barrier and almost forty years of sketchy western information. The audacity of questioning people for excepting facts presented by the films themselves is straight out bizarre.

[Tamura]

Plus, if you want to go by the Japanese dialogue, the narrator says "near the end of the 20th century." No matter what version is being watched, the film takes place long after 1968. I don't know why anybody would disregard that information.

[miguelnuva]

also the fact that Ghidora is forced to attack the earth monsters alone and doesn't escape is prove enough to me that DAM takes place in 99.

[Svitska Donkun]

Lol @ arguing canon in a franchise that has no defined canon.
You could just as easily consider DAM in the same way you can consider any of the Millennium films a fun "what-if" movie not connected to anything in the past or future. Which is how I look at it, and I think it's how it should be looked at.

[miguelnuva]

Lol @ arguing canon in a franchise that has no defined canon.
You could just as easily consider DAM in the same way you can consider any of the Millennium films a fun "what-if" movie not connected to anything in the past or future. Which is how I look at it, and I think it's how it should be looked at.

Why is everyone saying the showa series has no real timeline when their's one on the main tohokingdom site for one. The showa time line is not that hard to follow just follow every Godzilla movie and then put Destroy all monsters after TOMG.

[Kaiju-King42]

Lol @ arguing canon in a franchise that has no defined canon.
You could just as easily consider DAM in the same way you can consider any of the Millennium films a fun "what-if" movie not connected to anything in the past or future. Which is how I look at it, and I think it's how it should be looked at.

Why is everyone saying the showa series has no real timeline when their's one on the main tohokingdom site for one. The showa time line is not that hard to follow just follow every Godzilla movie and then put Destroy all monsters after TOMG.

That's not the hard part to follow. The hard part is deciding which non-Godzilla Toho monster flicks fit in, like Rodan, or Mothra, or WAr of the Gargantuas. What fits in and what doesn't? That's where all the confusion is.

[miguelnuva]

Lol @ arguing canon in a franchise that has no defined canon.
You could just as easily consider DAM in the same way you can consider any of the Millennium films a fun "what-if" movie not connected to anything in the past or future. Which is how I look at it, and I think it's how it should be looked at.

Why is everyone saying the showa series has no real timeline when their's one on the main tohokingdom site for one. The showa time line is not that hard to follow just follow every Godzilla movie and then put Destroy all monsters after TOMG.

That's not the hard part to follow. The hard part is deciding which non-Godzilla Toho monster flicks fit in, like Rodan, or Mothra, or WAr of the Gargantuas. What fits in and what doesn't? That's where all the confusion is.

Well Rodan fits it is mentioned in Ghidorah

Frankenstien and War of the gargantuas might fit.

Mothra 61 I don't know some say it doesn't fit others say 61 mothra is the one that battles Godzilla in 64.

[Goji]

RODAN is definitely not mentioned in GHIDORAH. The only things that "link" them together is that another Rodan emerges from Mount Aso.

[TokyoVigilante]

Lol @ arguing canon in a franchise that has no defined canon.
You could just as easily consider DAM in the same way you can consider any of the Millennium films a fun "what-if" movie not connected to anything in the past or future. Which is how I look at it, and I think it's how it should be looked at.

I think the whole franchise takes place on Mars. The filmmakers were really loose with their science afterall, so I can disregard blatant pieces of information to the contrary.

[Megalon-5]

I think Jet Jaguar is Kong in a robot suit. Similar powers were used by Minya in Godzilla's Revenge which must be canon because there's no continuity, so my JJ-Kong idea has to be correct.

[menschenjaeger]

^^ Holy...YEAH! That explains how he could reprogram himself to grow larger!

[Hellspawn28]

^ So the 70's Showa movies take place in the 70's... for absolutely no reason except that it hasn't been contradicted elsewhere?

Well yes since Toho never stated that they take place after DAM. I can't believe people are really thinking that DAM does not take place in 1999 when it was stated by the omniscient narrator in the film. The narrator is the one that is telling the story and is usually always right.

[Goji]

What is this topic even about anymore?

DAM takes place at the end of the 20th century, so it's clearly not in the 60's, like Tamura already mentioned.

Is this what it's come to? Blatantly ignoring facts presented to us in these films for the sake of....conversation?

[Svitska Donkun]

Lol @ arguing canon in a franchise that has no defined canon.
You could just as easily consider DAM in the same way you can consider any of the Millennium films a fun "what-if" movie not connected to anything in the past or future. Which is how I look at it, and I think it's how it should be looked at.

I think the whole franchise takes place on Mars. The filmmakers were really loose with their science afterall, so I can disregard blatant pieces of information to the contrary.

This is a complete misrepresentation of what I said to the point that I wonder whether you read my post at all.