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Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:58 am**

menschenjaeger wrote:How, in a world positively CRAWLING with monsters, to the point where people know enough to comment "something's wrong! Godzilla shouldn't be attacking his friend Anguirus...," could you ruin your career by positing the existence of yet another monster? "Idiot! The only monsters are Godzilla, Mothra and Rodan. And Ghidorah. And Anguirus. And Gaira. And Sanda, ok, but he doesn't count because they were grown from the same cells. And King Seesar. And Mechagodzilla, but he was blown up. And that big spider those guys were talking about in the South Pacific. And the big shrimp. And Kong, too, but he's not a monster REALLY, just a giant anthropoid. And Baragon. And Varan. But that is absolutely it. Fool."

Unless he was, like, a Ph.D. in English or something...

"Professor Mifune, when are we going to get our final grades? It's been three -"
"LOOK AT THESE PICTURES! TITANOSAURAUS IS REAL I TELL YOU!"
"I'll, uh...come back later..."
"I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE OFFICE HOURS UNTIL THURSDAY! BECAUSE OF TITANOSAURUS!"

I'm convinced it was a "wrong time, wrong place" kind of issue. Like they were discussing budgets and he started bombarding them with dinosaur diagrams.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:03 pm**

When, exactly, did Dr. Mafune discover Titanosaurus? The day & age may have something to do with it.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:21 pm**

NSZ wrote:
Rody wrote:When, exactly, did Dr. Mafune discover Titanosaurus? The day & age may have something to do with it.
Well, considering that b&w pic of him looks as though he were in his 30's, and in TOMG he's most certainly older than 60 with all that white hair, he could've discovered him before the events G'54.

This makes so much since it should be made canon.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:57 pm**

miguelnuva wrote:
NSZ wrote:
Rody wrote:When, exactly, did Dr. Mafune discover Titanosaurus? The day & age may have something to do with it.
Well, considering that b&w pic of him looks as though he were in his 30's, and in TOMG he's most certainly older than 60 with all that white hair, he could've discovered him before the events G'54.
This makes so much since it should be made canon.

But it doesn't say so in the film. So it shouldn't be canon.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:14 pm**

Lord Gappa wrote:
miguelnuva wrote:
NSZ wrote: Well, considering that b&w pic of him looks as though he were in his 30's, and in TOMG he's most certainly older than 60 with

This makes so much since it should be made canon.
But it doesn't say so in the film. So it shouldn't be canon.

But it would explain why they called him crazy when there were some many other monsters in Japan.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:59 pm**

Wasn't he banished because of his claim to be able to control Titanosaurus, as well as other sea life?

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:13 pm**

I've always kinda thought that Mafune's claims of Titanosaurus were made in 1955 right after the events of Godzilla Raids Again. It says in the film that it was 20 years ago and I sorta think that after the Osaka attack, Mafune's claims that he found a dinosaur and that he could control it where seen in poor taste, like he was trying to capitalize on the kaiju attack. I know the Showa continuity is very loose, but I kinda like to think that Mafune presented his discovery at a bad time which led to his banishment.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:18 pm**

^ The above statement is the best explanation so far, I think.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:10 pm**

I agree with Megalon-5 (an inside joke from the Godzilla Fan Club on Facebook. Connor is that you?!). Makes enough sense to me. While the obvious answer is that Toho didn't care about this kind of continuity, this at least makes sense, unlike some of the other nonsensical theories that some people come up with around these parts.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:25 pm**

Yes, it's me Goji, I've just joined the forums like a week ago, lol. Anyways, although the Showa era is reeeaally lose at best, I kinda like to think there's several little loose ends that can be connected without making a huge headache. Of course the filmmakers never really intended huge connections, but it's fun in it's own little way.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:56 pm**

Rody wrote:When, exactly, did Dr. Mafune discover Titanosaurus? The day & age may have something to do with it.

I believe they say it was 15 years prior to Terror of Mechagodzilla, so 1960. Japan was still in its "What, a monster? That's absurd!" stage then.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:08 pm**

Megalon-5 wrote:Yes, it's me Goji, I've just joined the forums like a week ago, lol. Anyways, although the Showa era is reeeaally lose at best, I kinda like to think there's several little loose ends that can be connected without making a huge headache. Of course the filmmakers never really intended huge connections, but it's fun in it's own little way.

Welcome, Connor! :xilien:

And I agree completely. I especially have fun with all of the MonsterLand/Monster Island debates, and whether or not they're in fact the same place.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:18 pm**

Thanks Goji! Yeah, the whole Monster Island/Monster Land plot point is a bit silly in my mind, but I still treat them as the same place sorta. They're both tropical islands where the monsters live and they serve the same function. I know in canon they're not the same place, but hey it's like the multiple Godzillas thing. The Showa Godzilla and the 1954 Godzilla are the same character so to speak, but not the same monster.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:38 pm**

Isn't ''Monster Island'' just an invention of the little kid from All Monsters Attack?

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:40 pm**

Monster Island is mentioned in Godzilla's Revenge, but it's also mentioned in Godzilla vs. Gigan and Godzilla vs. Megalon too.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:42 pm**

I stand corrected. Welcome to TK!

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:51 pm**

Huh, all these years I thought Monster Land and Monster Island were the same place.

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:10 pm**

Megalon-5 wrote:Yes, it's me Goji, I've just joined the forums like a week ago, lol. Anyways, although the Showa era is reeeaally lose at best, I kinda like to think there's several little loose ends that can be connected without making a huge headache. Of course the filmmakers never really intended huge connections, but it's fun in it's own little way.

I assume you are the one that made the Godzilla Fan Club Page?
(It was also kind of humorous how fast I got my request to join approved

)

And I like your theories, they make pretty good sense. I like the idea of Mufane being shunned for wanting to take control of something so similar to a monster that was already attacking them

Posted: **Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:26 pm**

Nah, I didn't make the fan club page, although I admin it

. And yeah, I've got a bunch of theories on the mysteries of Showa universe. I kinda imagine Mafune just storming in with his theory like "Hey guys! I just discovered a giant dinosaur monster! And I can control him too! Guys? Why are you giving me all those dirty looks? Guys?".

Posted: **Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:18 am**

Destroyer wrote:Huh, all these years I thought Monster Land and Monster Island were the same place.

They are.

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