Roar Origins

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bring this thread back, you guys had some cool info in here. don't let it die people!

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How about Ebirah's metallic squawk? Or Giant Condor's chirp?

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Something interesting I noticed is that, not even exclusive to Showa roars, if you listen REALLY carefully, you can hear a bit of the original device used to create it. For example, some choice Rodan clips you can hear the trail end of someone plucking strings.

Anyone know about Ghidorah?

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^ I know what you mean. You can sort of hear it in Ebirah's cry.
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Zombie thread, I know but I found out how some of Godzilla's roars from 1984, 1989, and 2002-2004 were made.

1984 - The basic roar begins like one of Shodai ('50s) Godzilla's roars but then goes into a sequence that sounds pretty rough like concrete mixed with a animal growl and then ends of with the finishing part of a roar from '55 Goji. The longer roar has the basic roar mixed in but with added sounds like more crumbling and breaking noises and a part taken from a '55 Goji roar while a sound of what seems to be a man screaming -put into a low pitch- is mixed with that whole roar. It then ends like the basic roar. The other roar of what sounds like one of '54 Goji's roars is that roar but with added "blaring'" sounds -like a really loud explosion when caught on a camera- to beef up the old roar a little.

1989 - These roars are modified 1984 roars. It begins with the recognizable Godzilla roar but then branches off into one of '84's growls and the whole roar sounds smoother than the '84 roar. The longer roar is almost the same as the basic '84 roar but then goes off into an extended '84 growl that was put at a lower pitch. The other roar that sounds like one of Shodai Goji's roars is a little hard to make out. I'm guessing it's one of the old roars but slightly shortened and beefed up with growls.

2002-2004 growls/cries - I'm not talking about the main roar, I'm talking about the growls/cries that were spouted out alot by this version of Godzilla. They started out as elephant sounds but were later put at a low pitch. I'm able to confirm this one since I was playing around with some elephant sounds in a sound editing program and I got some of the growls used by millenium Goji. Some of these were mixed with the beginning of this Godzilla's roar later on.
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I heard Gabara's roar was made from Justin Bieber being raped by a lion.
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Shadow wrote:I heard Gabara's roar was made from Justin Bieber being raped by a lion.
You know what makes it even more funny? I can believe that. :lol:
I remember reading somewhere that Gabara's sound were Justin Bieber's 'masturbatory' sounds (I swear that's exactly how I read the quote).
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This thread clearly should have been called "Roarigins."

I mean, clearly.
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^ Someone else made that comment before. I fully support it. :lol:

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210 posts? Seriously? I need to be more active. I've had this account for just a little over a year, and I'm lagging behind.
Anyways, we should go back with playing around with musical instruments for recreating kaiju roars.
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Rodan screech sound design

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Hi!
I was just at Son of Monsterpalooza and asked Akira-star of Gojira-about Gojira's roar! He said it WAS a contrabass with strings loosened and a glove with resin...BUT more sounds were layered-glass, metal, and piano!
I have ALWAYS been curious about Rodan-original-screech! It is so mysteriously cool! I can sound like it, but I have NO clue what it is...and I'm a Sound Designer!! Oh, the shame!!!
Anybody know...???

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Showa Gyaos wrote:I just found raw sounds from GRA on YouTube. Anguirus's roars were made with a saxophone, and later altered.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lygEnfOeMQ
I hadn't seen (or heard) this when it was first posted. Amazing!

The last time I was this dumbfounded about the origins of particular sounds, it was when I went to the very end of the Omega Man CD (as the liner notes recommended) to find out what the composer's inspiration was... :dizzy:

Anyway, never mind that it started out as a saxophonist deliberately making 'groaner' notes... Anguirus's / Angilas's roar is distinctive and very effective.

And to think, all this time I thought there were heavily altered sounds from heifers in there...
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Anyone have any idea where Ghidorah, Rodan, and Mechag's roars came from?
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Godzillian wrote:Anyone have any idea where Ghidorah, Rodan, and Mechag's roars came from?
Rodan's roar is a violin if I'm not mistaken.
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Dr. Professor wrote:
Godzillian wrote:Anyone have any idea where Ghidorah, Rodan, and Mechag's roars came from?
Rodan's roar is a violin if I'm not mistaken.
This has already been addressed before, but Rodan's sounds went into at least 2 other Kaiju. Heisei (Mecha) King Ghidora was given Rodan's sounds, although altered and processed, to make them sound much more alien. Battra, on the other hand, was given Rodan's sounds with no processing or alterations. Personally, for Battra I think they should have employed the same thing they've done to create Rodan's sounds, but only with a distored electric violin.
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I noticed that in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home that the some of the stock footage whale cries are the same cries used for Biollante.
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godzilla98rules wrote:I noticed that in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home that the some of the stock footage whale cries are the same cries used for Biollante.
Are they the same whale sounds or are the just both whale sounds? I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
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Mecha-SpaceGhidorah wrote:
godzilla98rules wrote:I noticed that in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home that the some of the stock footage whale cries are the same cries used for Biollante.
Are they the same whale sounds or are the just both whale sounds? I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
They're the exact same.
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godzilla98rules wrote:
Mecha-SpaceGhidorah wrote:
godzilla98rules wrote:I noticed that in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home that the some of the stock footage whale cries are the same cries used for Biollante.
Are they the same whale sounds or are the just both whale sounds? I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
They're the exact same.
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I'm curious as to how they made Gamera's roar
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