Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby gojira96 » Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:10 pm

Happy anniversary Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla! 40 years on, this is still an awesome flick.

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby 20th Century Boy » Fri Mar 21, 2014 4:17 pm

eabaker wrote:Happy anniversary to my third-least-favorite Showa Godzilla film (second least-favorite of the 70s). :-)

Woo, yay! It's my third-least favorite as well! :)

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby LiquidG » Fri Mar 21, 2014 6:32 pm

Definitely one of the best of the Showa era, Happy Birthday Mechagodzilla 8-)
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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby Rodan » Fri Mar 21, 2014 11:56 pm

eabaker wrote:Happy anniversary to my third-least-favorite Showa Godzilla film (second least-favorite of the 70s). :-)

I think this is the most I've ever disagreed with something I've seen you post on these boards.

I respect it, but I think your opinion is wrong.

Also, happy belated anniversary to this film, apparently.

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby eabaker » Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:48 am

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eabaker wrote:Happy anniversary to my third-least-favorite Showa Godzilla film (second least-favorite of the 70s). :-)

I think this is the most I've ever disagreed with something I've seen you post on these boards.

I respect it, but I think your opinion is wrong.

Also, happy belated anniversary to this film, apparently.


Just to be clear, there are a few Showa movies that I think aren't objectively as good as GvsMG, but which I just happen to enjoy more.
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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby Rodan » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:37 am

eabaker wrote:Just to be clear, there are a few Showa movies that I think aren't objectively as good as GvsMG, but which I just happen to enjoy more.

Well, different strokes. I enjoy GvsMG more than many (most, even) entries in the Showa series I realize are objectively better than it.

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby ILL GREEN » Sat Mar 22, 2014 12:29 pm

I liked the musical number for King Ceasar. Also because I think she is very cute. "Kiin guuu Ceeeeeeeasaaaaaar"

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby he-ba » Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:56 am

20th Century Boy wrote:
eabaker wrote:Happy anniversary to my third-least-favorite Showa Godzilla film (second least-favorite of the 70s). :-)

Woo, yay! It's my third-least favorite as well! :)


You guys are the first people I have met that actually dislike this movie!

Not that that's a bad thing, I respect everyone's opinion, but wow! That's new to me!
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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby 20th Century Boy » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:23 pm

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20th Century Boy wrote:
eabaker wrote:Happy anniversary to my third-least-favorite Showa Godzilla film (second least-favorite of the 70s). :-)

Woo, yay! It's my third-least favorite as well! :)


You guys are the first people I have met that actually dislike this movie!

Not that that's a bad thing, I respect everyone's opinion, but wow! That's new to me!

I don't exactly dislike it. The music is great and there's a lot of fun to be had in the final battle. However, I did not care too much for the human parts of the movie and some of the violence kind of turns me off. It's a decent movie, but the majority of the Showa series is just so much better to me.

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby Gothicserpent » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:30 pm

I see this movie as being GTTHM with better pacing. It mostly has to do with the human side of the story and how it is presented. We get a good deal of monster action at the beginning and end of the film, leaving the middle to be human centric. In GTTHM the monster action is all over the place, making the audience craving to see the monsters more.
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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby bobzilla84 » Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:45 pm

I fast forward through the king ceasar song
does Godzilla poop?

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby he-ba » Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:52 am

My brother and I tried to learn the words to the Caesar song.... then we found out it was in Japanese..... and then we just laughed our heads off

Every time I hear it I can't stop giggling!
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Maybe Minilla was some mutation inside a Kamacarus' ootheca and that's why they attacked..... Maybe Minilla ISN'T the Son of Godzilla! He's some weird Kamacari that Godzilla felt bad for!

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby eabaker » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:08 am

he-ba wrote:
20th Century Boy wrote:
eabaker wrote:Happy anniversary to my third-least-favorite Showa Godzilla film (second least-favorite of the 70s). :-)

Woo, yay! It's my third-least favorite as well! :)


You guys are the first people I have met that actually dislike this movie!

Not that that's a bad thing, I respect everyone's opinion, but wow! That's new to me!


Third-least-favorite of the Showa era =/= dislike. There are no Showa Godzilla movies that I dislike, not even Megalon (which is solidly my least-favorite of the lot).

I find Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla a basically entertaining movie from beginning to end, with a few bits that I really enjoy (like anytime Angilas is on screen), there's just not much about it that I find really special or distinctive. I love Mechagodzilla himself, but if I get an MG craving, Terror of Mechagodzilla is overall more up my alley. Like 20th Century Boy, I'm just not that into the human narrative on this one.

I like it, I just don't love it.
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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby he-ba » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:08 pm

eabaker wrote:Third-least-favorite of the Showa era =/= dislike. There are no Showa Godzilla movies that I dislike, not even Megalon (which is solidly my least-favorite of the lot).

I find Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla a basically entertaining movie from beginning to end, with a few bits that I really enjoy (like anytime Angilas is on screen), there's just not much about it that I find really special or distinctive. I love Mechagodzilla himself, but if I get an MG craving, Terror of Mechagodzilla is overall more up my alley. Like 20th Century Boy, I'm just not that into the human narrative on this one.

I like it, I just don't love it.


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Mostly because of Titanosaurus, but it's dark and used to scare me as a kid, and ANY showa movie that I hated I love now..... well I love all of them, but I hated Godzilla Raids Again, Rodan, and Terror, and now they're my favorites.......but now I'm just rambling.........shut up..........these guys don't care........
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Maybe Minilla was some mutation inside a Kamacarus' ootheca and that's why they attacked..... Maybe Minilla ISN'T the Son of Godzilla! He's some weird Kamacari that Godzilla felt bad for!

..... Nope, the other guys would never accept that..........




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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby XxComablack1937xX » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:11 pm

''Godzilla vs Mecha-Godzilla'' was the first awesome Godzilla film since ''Godzilla vs Monster Zero'' and what's surprising is ''Terror of Mecha-Godzilla'' is actually better.

After a long line of average to poop Godzilla films, i'm surprised at how well these turned out.

The film starts out strong giving you Godzilla rising from the mountains going on his usual pissed off rant, shortly after you see the battle with Anguirus (very reminiscent) of Godzilla Raids again, only Anguirus get's brutally beaten. In a twist you find the real Godzilla appear and the finally the reveal (The suit catches on the flames and Mecha-Godzilla revealed) in all his glory with that awesome music by the way... The battle is short but Godzilla is wounded (Dunno how) and MG is damaged..

I could go on and on... But this film has solid characters, the action sequences are superb, The score is unique and fun, Godzilla is clearly outmatched and gave us the introduction of King Cesar (or however you spell it)

This should have been the films that came after Destroy all Monsters, audiences might still have a strong interest in the series and Terror of Mecha-Godzilla would have also been a lot more appreciated at the box office.

Funny i actually hated the Song used to awake Cesar as a kid, now i really don't mind it lol.

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby gojira96 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:18 pm

I actually prefer this film to "Terror of Mechagodzilla".

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby H-Man » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:37 am

Terror of Mechagodzilla is arguably a better Godzilla movie, but I have a lot more fun with this one. Mechagodzilla is a far more impressive fighter here than in the follow-up, where he just stands in the background taking cheap shots at Godzilla. I like the human characters here, and Saeko is a lot cuter than Katsura.

I also like the King Seesar song more than I like the Jet Jaguar song, although not as much as the Godzilla song at the end of Godzilla vs. Gigan.

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby he-ba » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:21 am

The only reason why I like Terror better is because of Titano- otherwise, I like them equally!
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Maybe Minilla was some mutation inside a Kamacarus' ootheca and that's why they attacked..... Maybe Minilla ISN'T the Son of Godzilla! He's some weird Kamacari that Godzilla felt bad for!

..... Nope, the other guys would never accept that..........




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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby Rodan » Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:09 pm

gojira96 wrote:I actually prefer this film to "Terror of Mechagodzilla".

I think this is the better of the two by a long shot. I think it's a lot more successful at what it's going for, which is a big, jazzy, campy (yes, actually campy) spectacle.

Terror, to me, has always felt really unfocused, dirgy without reason and boring in long stretches. It feels quite grim, but unlike many of the earlier Showa films, even Honda's sillier ones, it hasn't much to say. I know it has its fans though.

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Re: Talkback Thread #14: Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla (1974)

Postby three » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:33 pm

Rodan wrote:
gojira96 wrote:I actually prefer this film to "Terror of Mechagodzilla".

I think this is the better of the two by a long shot. I think it's a lot more successful at what it's going for, which is a big, jazzy, campy (yes, actually campy) spectacle.

Terror, to me, has always felt really unfocused, dirgy without reason and boring in long stretches. It feels quite grim, but unlike many of the earlier Showa films, even Honda's sillier ones, it hasn't much to say. I know it has its fans though.



sometimes, i think we lose focus ourselves of exactly what a movie (or even a book) is about. nobody says it has to, or should have some hidden meaning or greater truth. sometimes i just want a good story.

in that regard, both GvsMG and ToMG deliver on every single front. there's not a ton they're trying to say, and personally i wouldn't change it for the world. that's how they work best, IMHO. (note: i'm not targeting you with any of this, but your post is what got me thinking of this stuff in general).

point being, there ain't a huge need for some sort of super deep secret message on human nature. the movies are good, or great (depending on you) on their own. :)
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