Talkback Thread #13: Godzilla vs. Megalon (1973)

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:54 pm

MothraPeanuts wrote:I'm with Legion. I actually dislike questions like this because "how could it have been better?" makes the assumption that there's something wrong with it in the first place. I, for one, adore it.

And a lot of people think there are things wrong with a lot of movies.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby MothraPeanuts » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:09 pm

That's not the point. I'm not saying that no one can dislike it. :roll:

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:23 pm

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miguelnuva wrote:take out jet jaguar and either add zone fighter or let godzilla take them both on single handedly.


Zone Fighter wasn't made until later and the movie was originally meant to be a Jet Jaguar film but they decided to add Godzilla. :roll:


Yeah and we can't change Megalon either so I don't see why saying I want zone fighter in is so bad. So in the event I could change Megalon I would have made the movie the start of the zone fighter series.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Lord Gappa » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:56 pm

MothraPeanuts wrote:I'm with Legion. I actually dislike questions like this because "how could it have been better?" makes the assumption that there's something wrong with it in the first place. I, for one, adore it.

...There is something wrong with it. It's a skreeonking terrible movie.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby MothraPeanuts » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:58 pm

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MothraPeanuts wrote:I'm with Legion. I actually dislike questions like this because "how could it have been better?" makes the assumption that there's something wrong with it in the first place. I, for one, adore it.

...There is something wrong with it. It's a skreeonk terrible movie.


That's just your opinon.

Has everyone completely missed my point?

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby MothraPeanuts » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:03 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Yes, yes it is. Just as it's your opinion that there is nothing wrong with it.


Yes, it is my opinion. Again, missing the point of my original post.

Eh, I don't feel like arguing over this.

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Tohosaurus » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:16 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Yeah no one is happy with the movies that we got. Fans just wanted stuff change and are so crazy over lost projects then will post poop like "I hope Toho could change Godzilla vs. Gigan and digitally add Rodan in the film". It's like they want Toho pull a George Lucas on the films :roll:.

There are the aspects of the fandom you mention here, and then there's the issues that were in movies like Megalon. Two different things, one being execution, the other being the plot and core itself. I don't have a problem with the plot or virtually any of the elements. I don't have a problem with being it being a child-friendly production. I don't have a problem with it being campy. It's about execution, and the execution was lousy. Not everyone that isn't a fan of this movie dislikes it for those aspects of the film.

In terms of this thread itself, I find it odd that those who are so against threads discussing a movie, especially ones on how a movie could've been improved, take the time to post in these threads repeatedly (not you and not this thread, but generally). It seems fairly easy to just keep scrolling down the list of new posts or however you see threads like this turn up.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:39 am

I heave issues with the production,the execution and Godilla's personality.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby therealmccoy » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:48 am

Tohosaurus wrote:In terms of this thread itself, I find it odd that those who are so against threads discussing a movie, especially ones on how a movie could've been improved, take the time to post in these threads repeatedly (not you and not this thread, but generally). It seems fairly easy to just keep scrolling down the list of new posts or however you see threads like this turn up.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

There's a lot of things that could have been done to make this film better. To think otherwise is utter arrogance. The story could be reworked, better casting, less stock footage, the monsters' personalities could be changed, etc...

This is not a question of how bad the movie is; it's a question of how it could be fixed. It irritates me the people who, when approached with a question like this, be it Godzilla vs. Megalon or Godzilla's Revenge or whatever, turn up their nose and say nothing could ever be done.

I love this film, and there would be some things I would like to be changed, but they won't be. I will not, however, be so blind as to say that nothing could have been done to make it better.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Bentley » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:41 pm

This film is such a wild ride I fully enjoyed it. Crazy film, fun film.

If there is one thing I would've changed, maybe it would be the back of the costumes and as others mentioned already, more Godzilla. Maybe a tiny bit more development over Gigan's involvement, if only because Gigan was gold at everything he did.

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:48 pm

1. add a women character
2. NO STOCK FOOTAGE
3. More background on Jet Jaguar
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Goji » Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:12 am

I love this film just the way it is. It's a product of it's time, and I enjoy every damn minute of it.

Though I will say it was sad to not see Nakajima playing Godzilla again..but then again, as a kid, I didn't know the difference anyway.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Biollante » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:09 pm

Revise the car chasing scenes and take out the blatant stock footage, that's all I would really ask for. Some more Godzilla screentime would be nice, though I understand it's not exactly a Godzilla movie.

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Goji » Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:17 pm

Aw, come on. It's greatest car chase in the history of film, and you know it. :mrgreen:
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby therealmccoy » Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:18 pm

Goji wrote:Aw, come on. It's greatest car chase in the history of film, and you know it. :mrgreen:

That car chase makes the chase in Bullitt look like they're riding tricycles.

The stock footage just doesn't bother me here. It doesn't look so out of place as it does in Godzilla vs. Gigan. I'm not saying that it should be left there, but I don't think it kills the film like everybody says it does.

A woman protagonist would be nice, and a revised, more fleshed-out story would help it.

Would I change it? Hell no. I love this movie.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Goji » Sun Jan 01, 2012 8:42 am

I honestly wonder if this film would be treated as harshly if it ended up being a vehicle for the Jet Jaguar character, which is what it was originally conceived as. Maybe the quality of the production wouldn't have suffered as badly if the budget allowed for more $ being allocated to building miniature environments, and only two monster suits (Jet and Megalon) instead of four.

For the record, I think Megalon's suit is pretty impressive, all things considered. He certainly looks the best out of the four, IMOHO.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Rody » Sun Jan 08, 2012 5:49 pm

^ Poor Gigan looked downright retarded in the film. I understand why they made a new suit, but think they could have done better.

Rodan had the same problem, actually.

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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Mini-Godzilla » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:06 am

Make it a direct sequel to Godzilla's Revenge. Give Ichiro a female friend to tag along on the adventure.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby bananaoil » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:10 am

Mini-Godzilla wrote:Make it a direct sequel to Godzilla's Revenge. Give Ichiro a female friend to tag along on the adventure.


Are you crazy? Megalon needed more Robert Dunham chest hair. In fact, Robert Dunham should have been Megalon. Just a giant chest hairy gaijin in a toga walking around attacking stock footage cities.
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Re: Godzilla vs. Megalon: How could it have been better?

Postby Mini-Godzilla » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:13 am

You're only saying that because of your crush on his daughter.
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