Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Ivo-goji » Fri Apr 29, 2016 7:19 am

One of my favorite Showa movies. Amazingly fun cast and kaiju.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:23 pm

King Kong Escapes needs an action/adventure anime
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Dino-Mario » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:07 pm

Heh heh, back when i watched this one for the first time, i remember how dad and me used to laugh at how goofy Kong looked like
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Stevo_1985 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:48 pm

I saw this for the first time last year I think. Aired on Svengoolie on METV. I was so excited as I've always wanted to see it and I was not disappointed. Just a fun campy kaiju flick and Kong had me laughing with some of his antics. I really like this one.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby GodzillaRangerPrime » Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:27 pm

Is there any logical way this could be in continuity with King Kong vs Godzilla and the rest of the loose Showa continuity?
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Ivo-goji » Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:43 am

Two Kongs, one smaller than the first. Simple.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Jun 12, 2016 9:29 pm

GodzillaRangerPrime wrote:Is there any logical way this could be in continuity with King Kong vs Godzilla and the rest of the loose Showa continuity?


I doubt it. KKE is its own film, and a fun one at that. It does have a connection with DAM, but only because Gorosaurus is in it.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby g2vd » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:53 am

Bandai Namco's Kaiju Guide article for Gorosaurus makes this matter pretty confusing.
http://www.tohokingdom.com/vg/godzilla_ps3_ps4/kaiju_guide.html#gorosaurus
Gorosaurus, the Primeval Monster

An evolved relic species of the Allosaurus, a carnivorous dinosaur from the late Jurassic Period. It moves nimbly and uses its long tail as a springboard to pounce and attack. Its ultimate attack is a two-legged flying kick that can connect from as far as 30 meters away.

Although carnivorous, the Gorosaurus is not savage at heart. The first one discovered on Mondo Island was eventually defeated by King Kong, but another was bred on an isolated island at a safe haven called “Monsterland.” Though manipulated by the Kilaaks to destroy the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, it later joined the army of earth monsters in the fight against King Ghidorah.

Gorosaurus’s model has proven quite popular due to its lifelike realism. Die-cut latex mixed with sawdust was applied to the skin over the entire body to achieve a sense of hardness and mass.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:00 am

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby eabaker » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:55 am

But, of course, that was written after the fact, and none of it is confirmed or even suggested by what's on screen, so it has no actual bearing on the movies.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Mon Jun 13, 2016 2:51 pm

eabaker wrote:But, of course, that was written after the fact, and none of it is confirmed or even suggested by what's on screen, so it has no actual bearing on the movies.

It doesn't suggest it's the same Gorosaurus from KKE either.
And I'm pretty sure all this comes straight from Toho, so that makes it real enough for me.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby eabaker » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:02 pm

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eabaker wrote:But, of course, that was written after the fact, and none of it is confirmed or even suggested by what's on screen, so it has no actual bearing on the movies.

It doesn't suggest it's the same Gorosaurus from KKE either.


Never said it did suggest that. The movies give no explanation, and thus there simply is no diegetic explanation.

And I'm pretty sure all this comes straight from Toho, so that makes it real enough for me.


To my mind, a statement coming from Toho doesn't really mean anything, per se, if it's anything other than an explication of the intent at the time of writing/production. It could come directly from a panel of Honda, Tanaka, Kimura and Arikawa, but if it was something they decided after the movie was made, it wouldn't have any significance to the movie itself.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:40 pm

^ Well no, of course it doesn't have any significance to the film, and even if it is retcon, that doesn't make it any less interesting

Toho states the Goro in KKE was a lot smaller than the one in DAM, and I'm pretty sure there's a Toho book laying around that states the Goro in DAM is known as Gorosaurus 2, so it's not like it'd be hard to believe, in their crazy plots, that they made another Gorosaurus to live on Monsterland.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:57 pm

It's only natural you'd want to breed a giant carnivorous monster that has the strength to rip apart a city for scientific study.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Goji » Thu Jun 16, 2016 6:31 pm

Or, you know, "Gorosaurus 2" could (and probably does) just mean that it's the second Gorosaurs among Toho's science fiction films. Those books have always jumbled them all together. It doesn't mean they're within the same continuity.

It's unfortunate that the whole "Everything's canon" nonsense has found its way in here.

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 7:30 pm

Lain Of The Wired wrote:"Bred"
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Shhh! The Octopus » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:55 am

Goji wrote:Or, you know, "Gorosaurus 2" could (and probably does) just mean that it's the second Gorosaurs among Toho's science fiction films. Those books have always jumbled them all together. It doesn't mean they're within the same continuity.

It's unfortunate that the whole "Everything's canon" nonsense has found its way in here.


There were 3 different Gorosaurus' from three different universes.

Gorosaurus 1 is from the King Kong Escapes universe. Living on Mondo Island he fought and was killed by King Kong.
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Gorosaurus 2 is from the Showa Godzilla universe. Chronology, he fist appeared in Godzilla vs Gigan living on Monster Island. Then he reappears in Destroy All Monsters where now he lives on Monsterland. This Gorosaurus is much bigger than the original one and even has a a different roar.
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Gorosaurus 3 is from the Go! Godman universe. Here he battles the giant superhero Godman and is blown to bits. This Gorosaurus is bigger than the original but not as big as the second one. He also has a different roar.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby eabaker » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:25 am

In the above interpretation, I replace the word "universe" with "diegesis." Referring to different universes, in fandom circles, tends to imply some sort of parallel existence that can be crossed over; it's still treating them as part of a single continuity, albeit a splintered one.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Space Hunter M » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:35 am

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:29 pm

This place is turning into the Gorosaurus thread.
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