Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby eabaker » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:25 pm

Gothicserpent wrote:So is this Kong the same one from KKvG? Or just a smaller ape that is also named Kong.


There's really no discernable continuity between the two movies.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Captain Aktion » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:36 pm

eabaker wrote:
Gothicserpent wrote:So is this Kong the same one from KKvG? Or just a smaller ape that is also named Kong.


There's really no discernable continuity between the two movies.


Yeah, it's actually far more likely to exist in the original King Kong's universe than vs.Godzilla.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby eabaker » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:44 pm

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Gothicserpent wrote:So is this Kong the same one from KKvG? Or just a smaller ape that is also named Kong.


There's really no discernable continuity between the two movies.


Yeah, it's actually far more likely to exist in the original King Kong's universe than vs.Godzilla.


Y'know, I never even thought of that. And I've never seen the Rankin/Bass series, so I can't comment on how well that might bridge it with the original.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Captain Aktion » Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:53 pm

eabaker wrote:Y'know, I never even thought of that. And I've never seen the Rankin/Bass series, so I can't comment on how well that might bridge it with the original.


Well...Son of Kong did show that there's more giant apes out there...
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:12 pm

The island did flood in the end, though. Unless Kong has relatives living elsewhere, that could be it for his species.

Kong was closer to his original size in this film.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby DoctorMafune » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:33 pm

eabaker wrote:
Captain Aktion wrote:
eabaker wrote:[

There's really no discernable continuity between the two movies.


Yeah, it's actually far more likely to exist in the original King Kong's universe than vs.Godzilla.


Y'know, I never even thought of that. And I've never seen the Rankin/Bass series, so I can't comment on how well that might bridge it with the original.

Well, Rankin-Bass's series started off with a TV movie (prime time, if I remember correctly) that extensively re-wrote the events of the 1933 film: so that they took place in the 1960s, Kong was discovered by a kid and survived his time in New York, there was no Ann Darrow, etc. (though there was a Capt. Englehorn).

So the RB series doesn't really bridge with the 1933 film: it's set in a continuity where those events never took place, and Kong's first appearance was in 1966.

King Kong Escapes, despite Rankin-Bass's involvement, mostly ignores the animated continuity and depicts Kong as a cryptid (Susan: "You mean he actually exists??") until Nelson reports to the U.N. that not only is Kong real, but there are dinosaurs and the like on Mondo Island. The only features of KKE that I can think of off-hand, that appeared also in the animated series, were Mondo Island, Dr. Who (though he looked nothing like Eisei Amamoto), and Mechani-Kong.

The Monster Times playfully added to the confusion by running an article on the events in Son of Kong, written as if by Carl Denham, in which 'Denham' speculated that the Kong that surfaced in Japan in the 1960s, fighting Dr. Who and Godzilla, was actually the son of Kong, grown up. Nothing more than MT playing to its readership, though...
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Godzillian » Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:43 pm

Recently rewatched this movie and I gotta say I like even more know then when I was young. The suitmation and miniatures are top notch, acting is great, and plenty of fun and satisfying kaiju action.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby gojira96 » Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:22 pm

It's a shame this movie is often dismissed because it's for children. Suit's aside, it's a very well put together movie.

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Godzillian » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:12 pm

gojira96 wrote:It's a shame this movie is often dismissed because it's for children. Suit's aside, it's a very well put together movie.


I like it more now then when I was a kid
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Space Hunter M » Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:33 pm

I think we can all agree that Eisei Amamoto is the best incarnation of the Doctor.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby The One and Only » Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:32 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:I think we can all agree that Eisei Amamoto is the best incarnation of the Doctor.

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby The One and Only » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:52 pm

I'm sad to report that Rhodes Reason, a.k.a. Captain Carl Nelson, passed away Friday December 26 in his sleep. Rest In Peace good sir.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Dec 30, 2014 10:44 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:I think we can all agree that Eisei Amamoto is the best incarnation of the Doctor.


Like a Japanese version of John Pertwee.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby AllPowersCombined » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:24 am

I'd love to see this movie one day but I only have my old, American version. I hope I'm not missing much (I know I do).
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Space Hunter M » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:34 am

AllPowersCombined wrote:I hope I'm not missing much

Despite the eight minutes shorter runtime, there's really not much cut from the Toho version, and the US cut has the benefit of Rhodes Reason and Linda Miller's dialogue matching their lip movements. Just minor scraps of footage deemed too redundant here and there (they didn't even re-edit the music to accommodate these edits for the most part). Now, what's really interesting is the 58 minute long Champion Festival cut.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby KaijuFiend » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:20 am

Just finished watching this film. It was a fun, classic tokusatsu film and is definitely worth a look by any G-fan.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Kaijugriffey » Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:21 pm

AllPowersCombined wrote:I'd love to see this movie one day but I only have my old, American version. I hope I'm not missing much (I know I do).
Very interesting movie. Giant Sea Serpent has to be the most overlook kaiju from the Toho studios.


It's actually one of the rare cases where the American cut seems to be the better version. They didn't really change the movie any, and just tightened up the pacing a bit.

I confess this baby is one of my guilty pleasure Toho movies. Yeah it's absurd and stupid. But it is so much weird fun. It has everything. Horrid cheesy acting. Over the top mad scientist. impossible civilian atomic super sub. Plus MechaniKong! (I so want a SHMA MechaniKong to stand next to the various MechaG versions. I know it will never happen. But I can dream.)

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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:51 pm

It succeeds very well in being entertaining and having solid monster action.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Godzilla21 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:10 pm

Met Linda Miller today. Very kind. She was a beauty.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong Escapes (1967)

Postby Mastergodzilla » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:24 am

I love this movie. It's one of my favorite kajiu movies of all time. And for childish? Yes, the plot is a little bit childish. The movie? My 10 year old brother still can't see all of it (but we do have sesentive parents). Overall, a fun movie that entertains me every time.
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