Monster Discussion #2: Anguirus (Showa)

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Monster Discussion #2: Anguirus (Showa)

Postby Hedorah » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:39 pm

Use this thread to discuss the Showa series version of Anguirus, which includes appearances in Godzilla Raids Again, Destroy All Monsters, All Monsters Attack, Godzilla vs. Gigan, Godzilla vs. Megalon and Godzilla vs. Mechagodzilla.

Ok now that that is put aside lets discuss Anguirus and his powers in full. To start off with, do you think Anguirus is powerful or not?
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Hotrod93 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:55 pm

Considering that he doesnt have any type of beam weapon, willing to run into Gigans buzzsaw, biting and holding on Ghidorah's neck while in flight Id say he has more bravery than power.

Anguirus I can see fighting any type of monster but I just dont see him taking down any Tier 1 monsters alone.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Hedorah » Fri Jul 23, 2010 7:56 pm

Hotrod93 wrote:Considering that he doesnt have any type of beam weapon, willing to run into Gigans buzzsaw, biting and holding on Ghidorah's neck while in flight Id say he has more bravery than power.

Anguirus I can see fighting any type of monster but I just dont see him taking down any Tier 1 monsters.

Yeah same, he just doesn't have the physical capabilities
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Arbok » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:00 pm

Hotrod93 wrote:Considering that he doesnt have any type of beam weapon, willing to run into Gigans buzzsaw, biting and holding on Ghidorah's neck while in flight Id say he has more bravery than power.

Anguirus I can see fighting any type of monster but I just dont see him taking down any Tier 1 monsters alone.


While Anguirus is indeed brave, he tends to need another kaiju to back him up in order to display this to its fullest.

After all, Mechagodzilla was able to brutally beat him and have Anguirus run away, while the military was able to drive him off at the start of Godzilla vs. Gigan. If Godzilla is around though? It seems like he will suddenly charge into hell and back if needed. One of the reasons why he just seems like a great ally for the King of the Monsters, even if he isn't very powerful in the slightest.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby KaijuSapian » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:34 pm

Let's face it. Anguirus may not have a lot of power, and he may not be to bright... But he has heart. That's what makes him so likable as a Kaiju.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Hedorah » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:40 pm

KaijuSapian wrote:Let's face it. Anguirus may not have a lot of power, and he may not be to bright... But he has heart. That's what makes him so likable as a Kaiju.

Thats one of the reasons I love Anguirus, he's just a brave and heart filled kaiju!
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Postby JVM » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:50 pm

Anguirus isn't powerful - he's not famous for his power, it's for his personality. Few kaiju have a real personality going, but Anguirus seems to have one.
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Postby Malchik » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:57 pm

My mom used to refer to him as a shoe brush.

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Postby Legionmaster » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:07 pm

I dunno why people think he's brave. He ran face-first into a saw. That's just...'tarded.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby James23873 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:15 pm

Powerful as a character yes, not so much as a kaiju. I do think though that his spikes are more powerful than most people think. They're often overlooked because King Ghidorah was able to stomp on them repeatedly without any effects. But I think that was just because Ghidorah has all those tough scales for armor.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Arbok » Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:30 pm

James23873 wrote:I do think though that his spikes are more powerful than most people think. They're often overlooked because King Ghidorah was able to stomp on them repeatedly without any effects. But I think that was just because Ghidorah has all those tough scales for armor.


How so? Wondering as, beyond deflecting some SDF attacks in Godzilla vs. Gigan, I can't recall his spiked shield doing much.

He certainly never drew blood from King Ghidorah's thick hide from it, even when leaping backwards while Godzilla held him.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Tomzilla » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:27 pm

Anguirus is like a bulletproof vest. You wear it so you don't die from things that would otherwise kill or cripple you. Only said vest in this case has teeth, claws, and ample amounts of courage. But it's average at best. Mostly there as a distraction. And when the time comes (which it usually does when Anguirus is involved)?

He'll take the bullet for ya.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:12 pm

As others have said, Anguirus isn't all that strong. It's his bravery, personality and loyalty to Godzilla that make him stand out. He's kinda like a wolf that keeps on attacking a grizzly bear... Even though the grizzly keeps swatting him into trees twenty feet away. You've gotta admire his spunk. :P

Legionmaster wrote:I dunno why people think he's brave. He ran face-first into a saw. That's just...'tarded.


I think you mean retardedly brave!

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Arbok wrote:He certainly never drew blood from King Ghidorah's thick hide from it, even when leaping backwards while Godzilla held him.


He may not have drawn blood, but I think it's clear that the attack still hurt Ghidorah.

Tomzilla wrote:And when the time comes (which it usually does when Anguirus is involved)?

He'll take the bullet for ya.


By running face-first into the gun. :P
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby HayesAJones » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:06 am

No, however much I love him, Anguirus isn't very powerful. But I do think a lot of people underestimate him. He is extremely durable and has a wicked bite. And, if you think about it, he's only gone up against pretty strong kaiju. It'd be interesting to see him go up against a lower tier monster.

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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby James23873 » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:25 am

Arbok wrote:
James23873 wrote:I do think though that his spikes are more powerful than most people think. They're often overlooked because King Ghidorah was able to stomp on them repeatedly without any effects. But I think that was just because Ghidorah has all those tough scales for armor.


How so? Wondering as, beyond deflecting some SDF attacks in Godzilla vs. Gigan, I can't recall his spiked shield doing much.

He certainly never drew blood from King Ghidorah's thick hide from it, even when leaping backwards while Godzilla held him.



But wasn't that the attack that made Ghidorah retreat?

And look at his opponents, Godzilla, Gigan, King Ghidorah, Mechagodzilla. He never got a chance to show off what those spikes can do against more normal monsters, power wise. They would probably be more effective against someone like Rodan, Mothra, Gorosaurus, etc...

Anyways that's what I think, although it can't be proven based on what we've seen in the movies.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Hedorah » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:28 am

I think Anguirus could take down monsters like Baragon and Gorosaurus
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Postby Legionmaster » Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:36 am

Legion1979 wrote:Just because Angilas didn't draw blood from King Ghidora by jumping against his body doesn't necessarily mean did didn't hurt him. I don't think anyone should be expecting the SFX crew to throw blood all over the Ghidora suit in order to illustrate how badly he'd been hurt.

Why not? They did so in GvsMG plenty of times.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby Hedorah » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:35 pm

Tyler wrote:Anguirus didn't run into Gigan's saw belly on purpose. It looked like Gigan was trying to block him from helping Godzilla (who was getting blasted). It doesn't really matter if Anguirus is strong anway. Personality is what matters most when creating a monster, and Anguirus has lots of that.


Most people watch these movies for monster fights, not if the monster has personality, it takes dedicated fans to appreciate that, but power does matter in some cases.
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Re: Anguirus: Powerful or not (I want it to be serious)

Postby KaijuSapian » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:42 pm

Legionmaster wrote:I dunno why people think he's brave. He ran face-first into a saw. That's just...'tarded.


Valor and foolishness are rarely mutually exclusive. Being brave often requires one to choose the less logical and safer option in favor of something, well... stupid.

Like I said, Anguirus isn't bright, but he has heart.
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Postby Hedorah » Sat Jul 24, 2010 2:52 pm

Exactly but to them thats whats important
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