Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

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Re: Godzilla Vs. Gigan : The Following

Postby Killswitch » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:38 am

DaiKamonohashi wrote:
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Killswitch wrote:Definitely an interesting mood, but I assume that was with the director switch after DAM (it was after DAM, right?)


I have no idea what you're talking about. There was no great "director switch" after DAM.

Ghidrah - Honda
Monster Zero - Honda
GvsThe Sea Monster - Fukuda
Son of Godzilla - Fukuda
DAM - Honda
G's Revenge - Honda
GvsHedorah - Banno
GvsGigan - Fukuda
GvsMegalon - Fukuda

Unless you're inferring that there was a major change simply because Honda wasn't involved for a couple of years but Fukuda had been a major player in the series since well before DAM.

Also, here's another reason why this movie is amazing:

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You need to direct your question to King Caesar, because it was his quote not mine. Looks like there was a "cut & paste" error?

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Re: Godzilla Vs. Gigan : The Following

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:21 am

Yuriko Hishimi For The Noms. I've got a pretty large folder of her modeling work, actually. XD

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Re: Godzilla Vs. Gigan : The Following

Postby Killswitch » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:04 pm

DaiKamonohashi wrote:Yuriko Hishimi For The Noms. I've got a pretty large folder of her modeling work, actually. XD


I would like to see more. Can you start a topic on General Discussions?

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Re: Godzilla Vs. Gigan : The Following

Postby DaiKamonohashi » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:52 pm

Killswitch wrote:
DaiKamonohashi wrote:Yuriko Hishimi For The Noms. I've got a pretty large folder of her modeling work, actually. XD


I would like to see more. Can you start a topic on General Discussions?


Well a good two-thirds of it is NUDE modeling work, which is, mind you, totally awesome but I suspect it goes against this board's rules.

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Re: Godzilla Vs. Gigan : The Following

Postby Goji » Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:12 pm

She's certainly a looker, but I've gotta say, she doesn't look nearly that good in the film itself.
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Re: Godzilla Vs. Gigan : The Following

Postby Killswitch » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:21 pm

DaiKamonohashi wrote:
Killswitch wrote:
DaiKamonohashi wrote:Yuriko Hishimi For The Noms. I've got a pretty large folder of her modeling work, actually. XD


I would like to see more. Can you start a topic on General Discussions?


Well a good two-thirds of it is NUDE modeling work, which is, mind you, totally awesome but I suspect it goes against this board's rules.


Yes, I saw a couple of her nudes on the net.

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Re: Godzilla Vs. Gigan : The Following

Postby Kubo » Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:32 pm

Yay...from Godzilla vs Gigan to nude pictures...gentlemen (and ladies), i believe we are making progress.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby Kyono_Rei » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:25 pm

HayesAJones wrote:This movie is simply pure fun. It's no masterpiece, but it's incredible entertaining. Gotta love the Godzilla and Anguirus tag-team duo!


Agreed.

I think the low points are:
- the slow and often not too interesting start.
- Stock-footage of toy tanks that look too much like... toy tanks. Why didn't they use stock footage that actually looks good?
-Also the stock anguirus footage in different lighting and scenery. It seems like they got about 3/4ths of the fight filmed very well, then just slap-put the ending togeather. Dissapointing, as the start of their battle was very promising and could end up as THE Toho kaiju battle of all time if it was not for the sloppy finishing, stock footage and cut-and-paste editing.
- TNT in cardboard boxes. They could have at least used wooden crates or something. That's just sloppy prop making. Its just like Toho to produce some great explosions and special effects and then make a big fail over some pretty simple prop.
- The "deus ex machina" TNT operation is kind of a plot hole. I have problems believing that with so much assents and so advanced technology the aliens would leave the complex so unguarded that massive amount of explosive can be brought in on foot. One would think they would have a sentry tower or something. I think the screenplay writer should have created some more original and believable way for them to destroy the tower.

Good sides:
- The night battle between Anguirus&Godzilla vs Gigan&KG is very fun. The scene of the docks being destroyed is some good special effects, often you couldn't see that it was just a small studio set, many times it really looked like a regular size city and refinery going up in flames. Had some pretty dramatic scenes, like when Goji gets cut and bleeds.
- The aliens are your lovable B-film giant insects, that's cheesy but also fun. Plus i think that while they are one-dimensional, their background of being last survivors of a enviromentally devastated planet is kind of intriguing and I think it could have been even better if the script dwelled on them a bit more.
- The main human hero is kind of funny and likable. He is the "happy-go-lucky" dude who actually can think his way out when push comes to shove. He is ok as far as b-movies go.
- Some of the early driving sequences have that cool fisheye lens effect. I have not noticed that before, just when I re-watched the film today. Its a small thing, but still a nice touch.
- Another nice small touch is the capsule-tower lookalike in kid land. Just noticed taht the capsule tower was finished the same year they released this film. I think its a hidden tribute to the architect.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby G-fan4life » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:41 pm

Anyone else notice the banana scene where they all are eating in a circle, then they leave to find out about the Chairman...

Y would you just toss the banana up in the air as you leave (anyone else catch that?)

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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby UnCanny Studios » Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:24 pm

Guardian7 wrote:I don't know if anyone had already done this or not. but here is a pretty decent image of the flash from Gigan's forehead (I assume they were suppose to put an optic beam travel line in it originally - or at least that is what I have read).

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The frozen image looks pretty good. It does indeed look like something is going to happen from that spot on his forehead.

Cool pic that I am sure everyone will enjoy.


Awesome! I've read into the "beam" legend, and of course it is on several posters (Gigan shooting a laserbeam from his forehead), but I've never noticed this part in the film! Thanks for posting this image.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby Kubo » Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:31 am

This is my favorite Godzilla movie. Critically, thus film is lackluster. Yet I like it. The action--if you can get past the constant stock footage--is pretty decent, and the movie does have some good shots (I point out once again the scene where Gigan stands in front of a burning Tokyo). On top of that, the music is top-notch. Nothing really gets too repititous either, which is often a probably in Ifukube movies.

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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby therealmccoy » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:35 am

This is a 3.5 for me. It used to be my favorite, and I still thoroughly enjoy it, but there's just a few things here and there that take my mind off of it in some places. I find the characters to be fun; they're not the best actors, but would you rather have had the inventor from Godzilla vs. Megalon? The guy who basically wears a latex mask with the same expression on it the whole movie? The worst characters in this movie were the Nebulans. Other than that, basically the poor use of stock footage and the lacking SFX are the only things that bother me. The music is great, and the title monster is an enjoyable creation.
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Postby MothraRocks » Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:43 am

One of my favorite Godzilla movies, though I wouldn't call it one of the best. I love the soundtrack and monster selection, and the human characters were fun but not, well, interesting lol.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby Showa Gyaos » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:46 am

Was this movie profitable when it was released in 1972?
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby Kubo » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:32 am

Showa Gyaos wrote:Was this movie profitable when it was released in 1972?


According to the box office reports, the attendance was roughly 1.7 million. I don't know if that's good or not; I'll leve you to decide that.
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Postby therealmccoy » Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:51 am

I looked at some other box office reports on here, and it was considerably lower. I looked at Mothra vs. Godzilla and Destroy All Monsters, and they both made over 2.5 million. So I would have to say no, it wasn't successful, but I'm just going by the stats.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby Kubo » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:42 pm

^ I could have sworn Mothra vs Godzilla was one of the highest grossing films, but I might be getting that mixed up with Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby therealmccoy » Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:46 pm

King Caesar wrote:^ I could have sworn Mothra vs Godzilla was one of the highest grossing films, but I might be getting that mixed up with Godzilla vs King Ghidorah.

I think that was Godzilla vs. Mothra (1992) That's what it says in my Compendium anyway. I think it still is, too.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby Kubo » Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:15 pm

:oops: ...I knew that. Okay that makes a bit more sense now.
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Re: Talkback Thread #12: Godzilla vs. Gigan (1972)

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:58 pm

I now look at Godzilla vs. Gigan as the "Anti-Godzilla Godzilla film". Kind of like how Enchanted or The Emperor's New Groove are the "Anti-Disney Disney films".

Everything Godzilla film made before Godzilla vs. Gigan had a lot of things in common: They were mostly monster driven, the aliens wanted to destroy the world, they all made their own new monster footage and new music, the characters were usually very similar with high-profile careers and nice lives. But, with Godzilla vs. Gigan, all of that is reversed: The characters are the main focus of the story, the aliens want peace (in their own weird way), all the music is recycled from previous films, as well as most of the monster footage, and the characters lead weird yet interesting lives with low-profile careers. There's more reverses to it, but those are some of the more obvious ones.

It turns everything that the previous Godzilla films were on their heads, but still attempts to tell as good of a story as possible. Being the "Anti-Godzilla Godzilla film" isn't a bad thing either, it's just...different. And I can appreciate Fukada and crew for attempting to do that. It really makes this one of the funniest Godzilla films, IMO. Mind you, this is still my least favorite Jun Fukada Godzilla film, but it's not terrible, just odd and out of place at times.
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