I never said everyone did. I have said that I have.eabaker wrote:Because not everyone perceives the character or the circumstances the same way that you do.Maritonic wrote:Not sure why this is a point of contention.
Talkback Thread #10: All Monsters Attack (1969)
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I think from my perspective, this is it, too. He demonstrates cruelty to the painter; that, to me, is the key. It's not necessarily that he is going to be a bully to those in a lower social strata- but he does go after someone unsuspecting, who has done no harm to them- and the potential for his actions to cause them harm is something he expressed awareness of earlier in the movie. That, combined with a general lack of compassion, kindness, responsibility, etc. (i.e. general being a jerk), combines to paint a poor character picture. He doesn't seem to care much about anyone else; never really thanks his saint of a neighbor, I don't recall him ever sticking up for his friend (I thought he just abandoned her when the bullies showed up, but I freely admit I don't remember clearly enough to say), doesn't respect other people's property or consider when they may be in pain or distress; sure, all of these are kid traits. But when he caps it off by doing something malicious to a person that, while not of lower social strata, is still very much someone he has power over (via the element of surprise, their unsuspecting nature, and remote position)- something that he does knowingly, having already recognized the potential consequences to their person earlier- it paints him as, if not technically a 'bully' in the traditional 'picking on the younger/weaker' sense, still someone with a bullying, cruel, or thuggish mindset... someone who has turned on the moral code he previously espoused (and which already had some significant... room for improvement, to begin with).Maritonic wrote:From my perspective, he's simply not a "nice, good" child. He's a punk. He jumps on the guys car, punks the painter guy, laughs at the old man's pain and expense.eabaker wrote:I can't think of any moments in which he demonstrates cruelty, or exploits any kind of power over anyone else.Maritonic wrote:
I certainly do. The way he acts the entire film. He's not really a "good" kid. He's kind of a shithead haha.
(Although, I do find the toymaker in pain scene ambiguous enough that I could read it as 'Ichiro didn't quite realize he'd gotten hurt, and was just being a little clueless in thinking the guy was practicing his monster roars while holding his foot.'


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Honestly, when all is said and done... I dislike this film, but not to the level many others tend to. Sure, Godzilla's new suit is rather lame, Minilla talking was completely unnecessary, Gabara is likely among the worst monsters introduced to the franchise, and the overall production of the film comes across as rather crude... but even with all of that said, there is minor entertainment value in this film, if for the wrong reasons. Even if this film may be among the worst produced in the franchise, it at least has the advantage of being entertaining, if nothing else.
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There was no new suit made for this movie. What little new fx footage they filmed used the suit from DAM.The Baranosdragon wrote:Godzilla's new suit is rather lame
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Speaking of suits, this would technically be the film with the largest amount of distinct designs used to represent a single Godzilla (NankaiGoji, SoshingekiGoji, MusukoGoji).

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Oh, it was? My mistake.eabaker wrote:There was no new suit made for this movie. What little new fx footage they filmed used the suit from DAM.The Baranosdragon wrote:Godzilla's new suit is rather lame
Correction: I am not a fan of SoshingekiGoji, and wish they had used a new design (outside of stock footage). I suppose that was a symptom of tighter budgets.
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What about Godzilla vs. Gigan? Soshingeki and Musuko in new footage plus Daisenso and Mosu in stock footage.UltramanGoji wrote:Speaking of suits, this would technically be the film with the largest amount of distinct designs used to represent a single Godzilla (NankaiGoji, SoshingekiGoji, MusukoGoji).
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Oh damn, you're right. Totally forgot about the Daisenso footage in Gigan.Terasawa wrote:What about Godzilla vs. Gigan? Soshingeki and Musuko in new footage plus Daisenso and Mosu in stock footage.UltramanGoji wrote:Speaking of suits, this would technically be the film with the largest amount of distinct designs used to represent a single Godzilla (NankaiGoji, SoshingekiGoji, MusukoGoji).

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I just realized there are also four in Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla: MogeGoji, RadoGoji, and BatoGoji in new footage and BioGoji in stock footage.UltramanGoji wrote:Oh damn, you're right. Totally forgot about the Daisenso footage in Gigan.Terasawa wrote:What about Godzilla vs. Gigan? Soshingeki and Musuko in new footage plus Daisenso and Mosu in stock footage.UltramanGoji wrote:Speaking of suits, this would technically be the film with the largest amount of distinct designs used to represent a single Godzilla (NankaiGoji, SoshingekiGoji, MusukoGoji).
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Can anyone do 5? 

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Godzilla final wars takes the cake if you count the opening creditsZarm wrote:Can anyone do 5?

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The intro sequence to the American cut of Terror of Mechagodzilla technically uses footage of almost every Showa suit from 1964-1975.LSD Jellyfish wrote:Godzilla final wars takes the cake if you count the opening creditsZarm wrote:Can anyone do 5?
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Stumbled upon this great video, definitely worth watching.
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Absolutely fantastic. First off, great effects, and I like the little skit surrounding it; works well as a satire of the film but also does not take away from the actual criticism.Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:
Stumbled upon this great video, definitely worth watching.
Second, analysis is fantastic. One thing I’d like to talk about, is that while yes bullying is a stereotypical trope of modern media, particularly from the 90’s onwards, I think during its run it was rare, and very similar to the film that is mentioned, but also a bunch of other films I’ve seen like Good Morning/Ohayou. Also, while I used to criticism the films message on bullying from a western perspective, I now see it as really uplifting and cathartic.
Thanks for showing me this video.
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Shouldn't that be 1964-1974?Gojirawars 03 wrote:The intro sequence to the American cut of Terror of Mechagodzilla technically uses footage of almost every Showa suit from 1964-1975.LSD Jellyfish wrote:Godzilla final wars takes the cake if you count the opening creditsZarm wrote:Can anyone do 5?
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TOMG came out in 1975?mikelcho wrote:Shouldn't that be 1964-1974?Gojirawars 03 wrote:The intro sequence to the American cut of Terror of Mechagodzilla technically uses footage of almost every Showa suit from 1964-1975.LSD Jellyfish wrote: Godzilla final wars takes the cake if you count the opening credits
Unless what you mean is that the suit is the same.
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mikelcho is right though, the quote was “the intro sequence... uses footage of almost every Showa suit from 1964-1975.” The intro has no new original footage of the ‘75 costume.
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Ah okay, I get what you mean.Terasawa wrote:mikelcho is right though, the quote was “the intro sequence... uses footage of almost every Showa suit from 1964-1975.” The intro has no new original footage of the ‘75 costume.
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The review makes some pretty good points, and I have always said that AMA is a well crafted film. But for me the latchkey kid storyline has always feel short, even when watching it subtitled. When I was a kid I think Godzilla Revenge would be about the only movie I would skip watching on TV. As for the stock footage it is probably the most creative use, and makes since in an age before home media was even a possibility.
He also brings up the comparison to stock footage use in Godzilla Vs Gigan. Which is actually the total opposite for me, I like the character story, and really don't like the kaiju battles.
He also brings up the comparison to stock footage use in Godzilla Vs Gigan. Which is actually the total opposite for me, I like the character story, and really don't like the kaiju battles.
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