Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Mechagigan » Wed Jun 25, 2014 4:53 pm

Wow; it's crazy that one of the most generally disliked Godzilla films is seen as a classic to a good percentage of fans. (That's not a bad thing, though; I'm just making an offhand comment.)

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Mechagigan » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:02 pm

I meant generally disliked outside of the fanbase... yeah, I should've worded that better. :P

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Godzillian » Wed Jun 25, 2014 7:16 pm

Mechagigan wrote:I meant generally disliked outside of the fanbase... yeah, I should've worded that better. :P


Nearly every nonfan of Godzilla I talk mentions this as being a fav. Lots of older people said they liked the one with the "baby godzilla that could only breath smoke"
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Kaiser » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:34 pm

Mechagigan wrote:Wow; it's crazy that one of the most generally disliked Godzilla films is seen as a classic to a good percentage of fans. (That's not a bad thing, though; I'm just making an offhand comment.)


I've never quite understood the love for it TBH. Granted, it's better than its reputation amongst younger fans implies.

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Sat Oct 24, 2015 9:22 pm

^ IDK, I found it pretty entertaining.

My only question is, why in the hell does Godzilla leave Minya after the Kamauras fight?
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:58 pm

Because he was without compassion AT THAT point, but somehow grow fond of Minya as the movie went on? That seems to be.
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Legion1979 » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:14 pm

I always assumed Godzilla expected Minya to follow him but Minya was too slow to keep up. It didn't take long for Godzilla to come back and offer Minya a ride on his tail.

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Sun Oct 25, 2015 6:31 pm

Giga Kaiju wrote:Because he was without compassion AT THAT point, but somehow grow fond of Minya as the movie went on? That seems to be.

Well he starts to drag Minya off, but gets stopped when a Kamacuras flies into him.
It seems like he forgot about Minya for a second, then was like, "oh yeah, where'd that mutant baby mole-rat go?"
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Oct 25, 2015 9:31 pm

Godzilla does become more father like as things progress. Godzilla appeared to abandon Minya at first, and then ends up huddling next to him as they are covered by snow.
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Goji » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:56 am

I find it pretty hard to believe that "nearly every nonfan" someone would talk to, would cite this as a favorite. In 25 years, I've never experienced this. My experience with casual viewers bringing this one up has always been accompanied by laughs and mockery, and not any kind of genuine appreciation for the movie itself. Positive nostalgia for this one (from nonfans) isn't something I'd imagine is all that common.
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby edgaguirus » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:19 pm

I think this film was one of the more frequently shown in the past. At least, I remember seeing it shown fairly often on certain channels. More people would be familiar with it if that's the case.
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Terasawa » Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:07 pm

Goji wrote:My experience with casual viewers bringing this one up has always been accompanied by laughs and mockery, and not any kind of genuine appreciation for the movie itself. Positive nostalgia for this one (from nonfans) isn't something I'd imagine is all that common.


Exactly. This is a classic to non-fans in the same way Godzilla vs. Megalon and Godzilla vs. The Smog Monster are.

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:19 pm

It is often liked by non-fans because of nostalgia and its sort-of comedic elements with Minya's sheananigans.
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby 2009MECHAGODZILLA » Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:44 pm

My headcanon is that the Godzilla at the beginning of the movie is a female.
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby KingKaiju » Thu Jan 28, 2016 10:39 pm

Outside of Minya, I actually don't mind the premise of this movie. A bunch of scientists on an island, conducting nuclear tests, which result in giant mutated insects that Godzilla fights. Now, of course Minya is the reason for Godzilla showing up in the first place, but the idea of Godzilla on an island fighting a bunch of giant bugs works for me. It definitely ain't Mothra vs. Godzilla, but I kind of enjoy this movie just for that. Also, does anyone else think that the noise Minya always makes to Godzilla sounds like he's calling him "big worm"?
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Obscurity68 » Wed Mar 09, 2016 1:30 pm

I've always had a soft spot for this movie, to me all the hate it got was (sometimes) unfair. Although, as mentioned previously, a good chunk of the fanbase seems to like it. I guess much of my love for this movie comes from pure nostalgia, as this was one of my most frequently watched Godzilla films when I was a kid (up there with Godzilla vs. Hedorah), however I still find it to be highly entertaining. I also never found Minilla that ugly, in fact, none of my family did. He has always been one of my favorites (I'm not quite sure if he'd make it in my top ten, though), but I can agree with the criticism people give him. I tend to think that the reason Minilla looks the way he does is because he was born premature, but at the same time I doubt the creators were thinking that deeply into it. Then again, if you compare him to other Godzilla suits from the same era, like '68, I can see some of Godzilla's traits in Minilla, mostly the snout. Oh, and of course theres the theory that Minilla isn't even of the same species as Godzilla. Too bad my DVD of this movie cracked a few years ago, and I haven't replaced it yet. Also, referring to the post above me, I always thought he was saying "dada", it just sounds more like "bwah-bwah".

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:26 pm

I adore the poop out of this movie! Not only is it one of my earliest but its also my 2nd favorite of the whole franchise! I am not afraid to admit that ending makes me tear up almost every time. The score is great, the execution of the giant bug kaiju is first rate, and the cast is well done and likeable. Not to mention Yoshio Tsuchiya gives one of the single best performances of his career in the genre (next to Shindo of course).
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby KaijuFiend » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:20 pm

I never saw this movie as a kid. I have no nostalgia for it. Yet I love it - Kumonga is very impressive and works well as a villain, and there are some nice heartwarming moments between Godzilla and Minilla.
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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby ILL GREEN » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:28 pm

I just don't the like the gorky neck of the suit, though I love the dorsal fins. Other than that, its a story I wished never ended, should've been 3 hours to see what happens to Godzilla and Minilla after the snow scene. But thats just me.

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Re: Talkback Thread #8: Son of Godzilla (1967)

Postby Shobijin » Sat Sep 10, 2016 6:06 am

Son of Godzilla (Japanese version) held up in my latest viewing last night, especially when taken into chronological context. It had been a very memorable film as a kid for me, and my mother, who still references it. (For 60 years old+ all casual fans I know- they remember Showa Godzilla, "Baby Godzilla", Mothra + Shobijin, and sometimes Ghidorah, in that order.) Minilla really stole the movie.

It was 100% a better Godzilla movie than the previous one, also on an island. The music fit, the story was simpler, and the monster action was awesome. Godzilla vs The Sea Monster borrowed heavily from James Bond tropes and half the movie had no Godzilla in it. Son of Godzilla is a fun monster movie which makes me smile. It could easily be watched at any time and doesn't require deep thinking like the black and white movies or trying to follow weird alien plots.

Kumonga's realistic look was really head and shoulders above most of, if not all of, the other Toho monsters seen to this point.

The human parts were not that bad, and I started to tear up when it began to snow, as the invention worked. The Tarzan girl was cool and I felt happy and sad that she will finally go to her late father's home (Tokyo).

I admit freely that I cried at the end with Godzilla and Minilla in the snow, holding each other.

Yes, Godzilla and Minilla's costumes are awful and the concept is goofy, ridiculous, and seen as offensive by later generations of G fans. However, the film actually flows well and we get an inside peek into the world of monsters on an island and the psychology of Godzilla and "Baby Godzilla". We see how dangerous it would be to have a "Monster Island" with overgrown insect monsters.

For those of you who don't want Minilla to be Godzilla's biological son or even the same species, the Japanese version shows that they have a brain wave connection, and Minilla has lighter versions of Godzilla's atomic breath, back fins, and voice. Godzilla also doesn't slay the poor creature. He was a tough dad because...well, he's Godzilla, not because he was forced to adopt the ugly duckling. Of course, with the "official" statements all over the internet that Minilla is his adopted son, the story works either way, especially since Godzilla had been a good guy in the last few movies. However, it is not offensive to me that they could be related or the same species, as I am a fan of Minilla and the movie. I really don't want to waste energy defending it either way.

Anyway, yes, this is the Disney version of Godzilla, but with poor costumes, yet it still works. The campy tone started quite a few movies before this. Son of Godzilla never takes itself seriously, and contrary to popular notion on the interwebz, is not a complete farce or satire like King Kong vs Godzilla was. It pretty much flows and could be seen like a cartoon- no more and no less. A nice fun movie which stands out to me.


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