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Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:30 pm
by MechaGoji Bro7503
I love this film, I'd say it's in my top ten, even though at this point I don't rank the franchise anymore due to it being so diverse. The action is iconic, the characters are likeable and charming, and the small comedic bits are great. I love how it can be inferred the Xiliens might've been on Earth when KG attacked in 1964, since the Controller knew about Godzilla and Rodan defeating KG. They definitely captured and controlled him once he fled that battle.

So why exactly did the inventor create that sound device? I'm pretty sure it's never elaborate on.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:44 pm
by Godzillian
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I love this film, I'd say it's in my top ten, even though at this point I don't rank the franchise anymore due to it being so diverse. The action is iconic, the characters are likeable and charming, and the small comedic bits are great. I love how it can be inferred the Xiliens might've been on Earth when KG attacked in 1964, since the Controller knew about Godzilla and Rodan defeating KG. They definitely captured and controlled him once he fled that battle.

So why exactly did the inventor create that sound device? I'm pretty sure it's never elaborate on.

he says its going to be a toy for kids

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 3:15 pm
by Zarm
Godzillian wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I love this film, I'd say it's in my top ten, even though at this point I don't rank the franchise anymore due to it being so diverse. The action is iconic, the characters are likeable and charming, and the small comedic bits are great. I love how it can be inferred the Xiliens might've been on Earth when KG attacked in 1964, since the Controller knew about Godzilla and Rodan defeating KG. They definitely captured and controlled him once he fled that battle.

So why exactly did the inventor create that sound device? I'm pretty sure it's never elaborate on.

he says its going to be a toy for kids


In the Japanese original, it is called 'Ladyguard'; a rape alarm.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:19 pm
by TitanoGoji16
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I love how it can be inferred the Xiliens might've been on Earth when KG attacked in 1964, since the Controller knew about Godzilla and Rodan defeating KG. They definitely captured and controlled him once he fled that battle.


And then there's Dr. Sakurai's line "Ghidorah was always one of their weapons."

Zarm wrote:
Godzillian wrote:he says its going to be a toy for kids


In the Japanese original, it is called 'Ladyguard'; a rape alarm.


To clarify, it's still called the "Ladyguard Alarm" in the dub. Tetsui doesn't create it as a toy, but when a toy company (the Xians) offers to buy it up, he's so happy and desperate to finally be making some money off the thing he eagerly sells it. Haruni even tells him "Oh, a toy? It's no toy."

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:32 pm
by MechaGoji Bro7503
Zarm wrote:
Godzillian wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I love this film, I'd say it's in my top ten, even though at this point I don't rank the franchise anymore due to it being so diverse. The action is iconic, the characters are likeable and charming, and the small comedic bits are great. I love how it can be inferred the Xiliens might've been on Earth when KG attacked in 1964, since the Controller knew about Godzilla and Rodan defeating KG. They definitely captured and controlled him once he fled that battle.

So why exactly did the inventor create that sound device? I'm pretty sure it's never elaborate on.

he says its going to be a toy for kids


In the Japanese original, it is called 'Ladyguard'; a rape alarm.

Well, that's interesting. So a rape alarm ends up saving humanity.

The Godzilla franchise is like no other.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:48 pm
by Grievous
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:So a rape alarm ends up saving humanity.

And now I like this film more simply from reading that line.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 7:32 am
by PitchBlackProgress
So planet Earth was under the impression that Planet X wasn’t or hadn’t been to Earth at the time of Fuji and Glenn’s arrival, yet the Commander has the *exact locations of Godzilla and Rodan? And no ones suspicious about this in the slightest? :lol:

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Godzillian wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:I love this film, I'd say it's in my top ten, even though at this point I don't rank the franchise anymore due to it being so diverse. The action is iconic, the characters are likeable and charming, and the small comedic bits are great. I love how it can be inferred the Xiliens might've been on Earth when KG attacked in 1964, since the Controller knew about Godzilla and Rodan defeating KG. They definitely captured and controlled him once he fled that battle.

So why exactly did the inventor create that sound device? I'm pretty sure it's never elaborate on.

he says its going to be a toy for kids

No, he designs it as a rape whistle for women, and a toy manufacturer buys it, which his fiancé finds suspicious.

I remember Lain had a rant about this back in the day in this thread :lol:

EDIT: I just went back to page 11 and found it, humorously enough I even found a post on the same page where MechaGoji Bro commented on the fact it was a rape whistle, yet here he is asking what its purpose was :eh:

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:54 am
by miguelnuva
So I just realized something after re watching the film last night. Planet X would have been more successful had they sent Monster Zero in by himself and left Godzilla and Rodan on Planet X. To bring in the one thing that can stop your heavy hitter even if you can control them was super risky on their part, worse case scenario they could have unleashed Ghidorah and came back after the Earth was wiped out and regained control over him with no Rodan and Godzilla to stop him.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:57 am
by Maritonic
miguelnuva wrote:So I just realized something after re watching the film last night. Planet X would have been more successful had they sent Monster Zero in by himself and left Godzilla and Rodan on Planet X. To bring in the one thing that can stop your heavy hitter even if you can control them was super risky on their part, worse case scenario they could have unleashed Ghidorah and came back after the Earth was wiped out and regained control over him with no Rodan and Godzilla to stop him.


This shows their hubris, though. Assuming they were untouchable and could not be defeated.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:25 am
by PitchBlackProgress
So are these guys robots or did they create a super computer to give them order?

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:12 am
by MechaGoji Bro7503
PitchBlackProgress wrote:
EDIT: I just went back to page 11 and found it, humorously enough I even found a post on the same page where MechaGoji Bro commented on the fact it was a rape whistle, yet here he is asking what its purpose was :eh:

That first post of mine was like, two years ago. I forgot :lol:

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:37 pm
by Kaiju-King42
Wait wait wait, hold on.

Since when was the invention a rape whistle???

I've seen Monster Zero dozens of times since I was six years old. I don't remember this at all.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 4:49 pm
by PitchBlackProgress
Kaiju-King42 wrote:Wait wait wait, hold on.

Since when was the invention a rape whistle???

I've seen Monster Zero dozens of times since I was six years old. I don't remember this at all.

It’s implied, it’s called the lady guard alarm, rape is just a bit of its intent as it was made to sound off when a woman was assualted in any manner, his fiancée comments that it’s odd a toy manufacturer would buy a such a device.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 12:38 pm
by Major sssspielberg!
I remember loving this movie as a kid! Second Godzilla movie I'd ever seen. The dance, the X-sejin, the Nick Adams... Not to mention seeing King Ghidorah in all his glory for the first time!
I understand people's complaints now that I've seen it 300,000 times but Monster Zero will ALWAYS hold a special place in my heart.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:07 am
by kamilleblu
The original Japanese trailer has an alternate take on the scene where Rodan rams into King Ghidorah. Godzilla stumbles backwards and remains visible the entire time in the trailer version. In addition, the shot is longer and Godzilla is more active. But, in the actual film, Godzilla is covered by Ghidorah almost immediately after impact. Has anyone ever mentioned this before?

Major sssspielberg! wrote:I understand people's complaints now that I've seen it 300,000 times but Monster Zero will ALWAYS hold a special place in my heart.

You make it sound like it isn't a good movie.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:19 pm
by Major sssspielberg!
kamilleblu wrote:You make it sound like it isn't a good movie.


How's that exactly?

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 1:57 am
by kamilleblu
Major sssspielberg! wrote:
kamilleblu wrote:You make it sound like it isn't a good movie.


How's that exactly?

I guess I'm used to seeing the special place in my heart card thrown down as admission of defeat. Especially paired with the understanding complaints part. But my bad if I made the wrong assumption.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:09 am
by Major sssspielberg!
kamilleblu wrote:
Major sssspielberg! wrote:
kamilleblu wrote:You make it sound like it isn't a good movie.


How's that exactly?

I guess I'm used to seeing the special place in my heart card thrown down as admission of defeat. Especially paired with the understanding complaints part. But my bad if I made the wrong assumption.


It's straight man, it's just literally one of my favorite movies ever. I'm sorry if I came off defensive about it.
I guess I've noticed that people who aren't disposed to falling for kaiju films (so to speak) don't seem too keen on the extended Sci- fi plot and smaller amounts of kaiju action which I can completely understand if you're expecting more of a Jun Fukuda type experience.
I guess that's moreso what I was driving at. To me it's one of the best Godzilla films and one of my personal favorite movies in general.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:12 am
by eabaker
Major sssspielberg! wrote:
kamilleblu wrote:
Major sssspielberg! wrote:
How's that exactly?

I guess I'm used to seeing the special place in my heart card thrown down as admission of defeat. Especially paired with the understanding complaints part. But my bad if I made the wrong assumption.


It's straight man, it's just literally one of my favorite movies ever. I'm sorry if I came off defensive about it.
I guess I've noticed that people who aren't disposed to falling for kaiju films (so to speak) don't seem too keen on the extended Sci- fi plot and smaller amounts of kaiju action which I can completely understand if you're expecting more of a Jun Fukuda type experience.
I guess that's moreso what I was driving at. To me it's one of the best Godzilla films and one of my personal favorite movies in general.


This is actually one that I've chosen to get a couple of people interested in the genre, specifically because of the engaging, pulpy sci-fi plot and associated production design.

Re: Talkback Thread #6: Invasion of the Astro Monster (1965)

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 10:24 am
by KaijuCanuck
Lol. It’s a gateway Godzilla film.