Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:07 pm

How did the Xillians controll King Caesar in GFW? The Xillians reconfigured the monster's DNA, but King Caesar doesn't have any DNA! He's a rock! A golem! How did they do it?
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Superrex » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:11 pm

We are talking about the SHOWA King Ceaser,not the MILLENIUM King Ceaser
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:16 pm

Showa King Caesar is my favorite monster, he looked awesome, and he was a golem!
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby kaiju115 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:30 pm

Showa King Caesar is also a favorite of mine. The millennium version, eh, its ok for what it is.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:46 pm

I didn't really like the Millinnium KC at all
Show was the best!!!!
I just wish I could've seen him "wake up other monsters" as it says he could.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Kubo » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:48 am

Assuming that was truly a power of his or not.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby kaiju115 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:59 am

That would be cool to see King Caesar awaken other monsters.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:04 pm

I would like to know what kind of other monsters HE could awaken. Like anciet ones like himself, or just any monster like Baragon or Rodan
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby kaiju115 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:48 pm

I'm all for it being all the other monster, though it would be cool to see him awaken some ancient ones as well.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Goji » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:50 pm

Patrick Alan wrote:I just wish I could've seen him "wake up other monsters" as it says he could.


Pretty sure that's only mentioned in the dub.

The subtitles on the DVD are dubtitles too.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:02 pm

As I understand it, the International dubs are basically exact translations of the Japanese script, correct? So this isn't one of those weird things added in dubbing to make dialogue sync, it was a part of the original story. Helps add legitimacy to King Caesars unused power, I suppose.

from subtitles that I have wrote:Tell our agent...
...to steal the statue of King Seesar as soon as possible.
Now that they've solved the puzzle of the statue, they can wake the monster at any time.

We'll be in trouble if King Seesar brings other monsters to life.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Goji » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:13 pm

While that's true most of the time, some Japanese speakers (one from this site) have commented that the international dubs are "pretty accurate, but not 100%", or something along those lines. It doesn't help that some of Toho's subtitled prints feature an amalgam of dubtitles/accurately subs. This was confirmed by kpa, when he mentioned on another site that the "dubtitles" on the Sony DVD for TOKYO S.O.S. are the exact same ones from Toho's subbed print.

That shot of Kuronuma saying that particular line is a long/medium shot (sorry for not knowing which it is specifically), and I don't even know that you can really see his mouth moving in the scene.

I do have a copy of the R2 with the Tokyo Monsters subs by Jim Ballard, so maybe I could see what those say, and check back.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Thu Mar 01, 2012 10:50 am

We'd apperciate that, if he could supposidly wake up other monsters it would be cool.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Kubo » Thu Mar 01, 2012 6:50 pm

A great Fan Fic it would make.....or hell, it'd make a great movie.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:52 am

I'd watch the hell out of that movie!
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Destroyer » Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:01 am

Nope, never liked King Caeser. Concept is interesting, but I just can't get past his ugly look, I'm sorry. Probably my least favorite monster.
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Rody » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:19 pm

Patrick Alan wrote:We'd apperciate that, if he could supposidly wake up other monsters it would be cool.

King Caesar wrote:A great Fan Fic it would make.....or hell, it'd make a great movie.

You know what, now that I think about it, this would be a great concept for a DAM-style film.

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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:22 pm

Well, I just learned there were a few deleted King Caesar scenes in GvMG, if anyone can find some vids of them, I'm sure many people would love to see them
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Kubo » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:25 pm

They're not clips of substantial length, and they were used for promo. You can probably YouTube it and find the acne of King Caesar jumping into Mechagodzilla. It's only three seconds, but it's three more seconds of our favorite furball.

Edit: Found the trailer to save you the trouble. The scene is abou halfway through Click Here
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Re: Monster Discussion #37: King Caesar (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:34 pm

King Caesar wrote: but it's three more seconds of our favorite furball.


Ha, I love this^

Yeah that's the video I've seen, but I've heard there's more, like KC sleeping and MG shooting missiles at him
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