Discussion: When did the Showa Age go Wrong?

[DaikaijuSokogeki!]

I did find it a bit odd how the good guys trying to break out of the Black Hole base died in the explosion. The other characters don't seem to react to it that much.

I was always under the impression they lived. After all, don't you see one or two of those characters in the last scene of the film? The editing and dialogue after the explosion is misleading, though.

[NebulaMSpacehunter]

I don't think the Showa series "went wrong" necessarily, but the decline in quality definately came after Destroy All Monsters. Sorry if I'm coming a little late in the thread

[Killswitch]

My favorite films were made by the team of Honda & Tsuburaya. When that chemistry was lost, the films were never the same.

I know the films of the 70's lacked a good budget, but they also lacked the experience, craftsmanship & heart that Honda & Tsuburaya brought to the table during the 60's. Not only did I love Godzilla, Rodan & Mothra, but I also loved the Toho Universe that Honda & Tsuburaya placed them into.

[Chris55]

If there's one thing I like about the Showa era above the other series it's that when the monsters fought, they beat the shit out of each other.

[Gojira-Fan]

How is the climax of MECHAGODZILLA 74' even in the least bit disappointing?

I should have been more clear. I felt for a movie titled "Godzilla Vs. Mechagodzilla", that the actual final climatic fight between the two monsters was awfully short.

[Goji]

The same can be said about films like BIOLLANTE, yet I never hear the same complaint from people. I'm not exactly sure what you were expecting man The climax is very exciting, IMOHO.

[Tyler]

Godzilla tearing Mechagodzilla's head off was satisfying enough for me.

[Gojira-Fan]

The same can be said about films like BIOLLANTE, yet I never hear the same complaint from people. I'm not exactly sure what you were expecting man The climax is very exciting, IMOHO.

The 5 minute battle between Godzilla and Mechagodzilla was dissapointing. The movie is only like 85 minutes, they could have added 10-15 more minutes of Godzilla fighting Mechagodzilla.

While I'm not like the people that just watch these movie for the monster battles, I would be lying if I said I did not enjoy them. I think that a good kaiju movie should have good monster battles as well as a good story (which Godzilla Vs. Mechagodzilla did). I like almost everything they did with the movie other than the short fight between Godzilla and Mechagodzilla.

As for the comparison between Biollante, I just think that battle was just way more exciting. The camera angles along with the visual spectacle of Biollante itself was very gratifying. Also, we got 2 fights between Godzilla and the Super-X as well as plenty of city destruction and Godzilla fighting the military.

[shinmattiathekaiju]

The same can be said about films like BIOLLANTE, yet I never hear the same complaint from people. I'm not exactly sure what you were expecting man The climax is very exciting, IMOHO.

The 5 minute battle between Godzilla and Mechagodzilla was dissapointing. The movie is only like 85 minutes, they could have added 10-15 more minutes of Godzilla fighting Mechagodzilla.

While I'm not like the people that just watch these movie for the monster battles, I would be lying if I said I did not enjoy them. I think that a good kaiju movie should have good monster battles as well as a good story (which Godzilla Vs. Mechagodzilla did). I like almost everything they did with the movie other than the short fight between Godzilla and Mechagodzilla.

As for the comparison between Biollante, I just think that battle was just way more exciting. The camera angles along with the visual spectacle of Biollante itself was very gratifying. Also, we got 2 fights between Godzilla and the Super-X as well as plenty of city destruction and Godzilla fighting the military.

10 minutes suffices.

[Ethan]

The battle is fine the way it is. You see Mechagodzilla unleashing its entire arsenal, everything blows up, Godzilla bleeds like he never has before, the music is exciting. Thought so.

[Goji]

The battle is fine the way it is. You see Mechagodzilla unleashing its entire arsenal, everything blows up, Godzilla bleeds like he never has before, the music is exciting. Thought so.

Yes, thank you.

I don't see why the battled needed to be "10-15" minutes for it to make an impression. It's just fine the way it is, and is photographed much better than the elongated wrestling match seen the year before.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

The GvsMG finale battle is terrific, and it never felt all that abrupt to me.

However, after sitting through minute-after-minute of the King Caesar summoning-boogie, one might think that the director could've trimmed some draggy scenes like that short in favor of another minute or two of Godzy footage.

[Gojira-Fan]

The battle is fine the way it is. You see Mechagodzilla unleashing its entire arsenal, everything blows up, Godzilla bleeds like he never has before, the music is exciting. Thought so.

Yes, thank you.

I don't see why the battled needed to be "10-15" minutes for it to make an impression. It's just fine the way it is, and is photographed much better than the elongated wrestling match seen the year before.

It's just my opinion.

The battle is still enjoyable to watch. I just wish it was longer.

[TokyoVigilante]

I love musical numbers in Kaiju films. Wish there were more.

My only gripe with the finale of GvsMG is the sudden appearance of the white jacketed Interpol agent who Dues Ex Machina's the heros out of danger. Overall the film suffers from to-many-character-syndrome, IMO.

[Killswitch]

King Ceasar should of had more screen time, IMO. I would of liked to have seen more one on one fighting between KC & MG, before Godzilla arrived.

[King Caesar]

King Ceasar should of had more screen time, IMO. I would of liked to have seen more one on one fighting between KC & MG, before Godzilla arrived.

I agree with you on that. King Caesar really didn't do much in the fight, even before Godzilla came. He was kind of just there just cuz for must of the final fight scene

[GotengoXGodzilla]

I don't think the Showa era ever went wrong. It was consistent from start to finish. There were some good films, great films and bad films in the 50s, 60s and 70s, and is overall the best series of Toho daikaiju films.

[Space Hunter M]

The very last frame of Terror of Mechagodzilla.

[Giga Kaiju]

I don't think the Showa era ever went wrong. It was consistent from start to finish. There were some good films, great films and bad films in the 50s, 60s and 70s, and is overall the best series of Toho daikaiju films.

This. I Agree i Like the continuity that all the Showa Series Has.

[Cimmerian Dragon]

I don't think the Showa era ever went wrong. It was consistent from start to finish. There were some good films, great films and bad films in the 50s, 60s and 70s, and is overall the best series of Toho daikaiju films.

One must admit, however, that the sheer number of films in the Showa series gave Toho more at-bats during the game. If you strike out a few times out of fifteen, it's not as bad a few times out of seven.