Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

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Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby JVM » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:03 pm

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I have no idea right now what opinion is. Just as many times as a fan was I called out for liking him as much as I was called out as a hater for disliking him. So right now I'm keeping indifferent to Toho's giant robot. I believe his origins lied in a contest Toho had out to invent a monster for a new solo film series, with him being the winner, and that he was to face Megalon alone before Godzilla and Gigan were added for star power, but I can't verify this.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby Lionblaze » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:12 pm

I like JJ, he has a good personality and design, even though some say he is a ripoff of Ultraman.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby JVM » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:31 pm

Lionblaze wrote:I like JJ, he has a good personality and design, even though some say he is a ripoff of Ultraman.

Let's not bring that old debate back up.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby Lionblaze » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:59 pm

JVM wrote:
Lionblaze wrote:I like JJ, he has a good personality and design, even though some say he is a ripoff of Ultraman.

Let's not bring that old debate back up.

Im not trying to sir ;)
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby Tamura » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:00 pm

If JJ is a ripoff of Ultraman, then I guess that means we can say that Spectreman, Mirrorman, Redman, Godman, Zone Fighter, Greenman, Fireman, Jumborg Ace (the last two which were created by Tsuburaya) and pretty much all the other giant superheroes post-1966 are all ripoffs too, you know, because they are humanoid and change size.

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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby RodanRedux » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:35 pm

I love the sound effects they use for JJ. Cool stuff.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby gojimantis » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:01 pm

RodanRedux wrote:I love the sound effects they use for JJ. Cool stuff.

+1, I think he just wanted to ride the dolphin pedal boat that Rokuro had in the beginning..
his sign language thing was kinda cool too.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby Ligerzilla2014 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:02 pm

i am really indifferent to jet jags. i do have some respect for him, but he is one of the few toho monsters that looks exactly like a guy in a suit trying to do the robot.

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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby gojimantis » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:20 pm

He's VERY 70's...
the only in-universe creation to shake hands with Godzilla. now thats street cred!
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby edgaguirus » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:14 pm

JJ is in good company. He's in the same club as Ultraman and Zonefighter. His color design is a bit garish, but he has good fighting skills.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby TokyoVigilante » Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:08 am

I love Jet Jaguar. As far as his fellow Henshin associates go, he is pretty unique. He doesn't get enough credit for that. He's part giant robo and part henshin and he has NO powers; just guts and fisticuffs. No instant kill finishers, no colour timers, nothing.

He has that refined absurdity that makes Gigan such a memorable creation. He's got tons of colours and a rediculous looking head, but the design never gets away from itself. It's very simple, campy, and contained.

Regardless, I wouldn't really want Jet Jaguar to come back. He belongs in the simplier times where you could flip off the audiences intelligence and kids wouldn't ask questions. I wouldn't mind seeing a homage, but a full out return I'd be very suspicious about.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby HayesAJones » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:38 am

He's a goofy, silly creation and I love him.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby JVM » Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:24 pm

Tamura wrote:If JJ is a ripoff of Ultraman, then I guess that means we can say that Spectreman, Mirrorman, Redman, Godman, Zone Fighter, Greenman, Fireman, Jumborg Ace (the last two which were created by Tsuburaya) and pretty much all the other giant superheroes post-1966 are all ripoffs too, you know, because they are humanoid and change size.

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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby TokyoVigilante » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:12 pm

Oh and how many monsters can claim to have a sweet indie jazz rock tune written about them?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=Mbnocp96__E

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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby gojimantis » Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:28 pm

Living Corpse wrote:
gojimantis wrote:He's VERY 70's...
the only in-universe creation to shake hands with Godzilla. now thats street cred!





Cough.

cough. cough. :mrgreen: forgot about zone fighter, but is that series tied into the later showa era G films?
i have only watched zone with no subtitles on vhs, and my Japanese is non existent.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby Primevalgodzilla V2 » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:32 pm

If JJ is a ripoff of Ultraman, then I guess that means we can say that Spectreman, Mirrorman, Redman, Godman, Zone Fighter, Greenman, Fireman, Jumborg Ace (the last two which were created by Tsuburaya) and pretty much all the other giant superheroes post-1966 are all ripoffs too, you know, because they are humanoid and change size.


You know, 3/4 of those were attempts to cash of the Ultraman craze, and Zone Fighter, Mirrorman, Redman and others look suspiciously similar to Ultraman. So yeah, in a sense, they ARE ripoffs.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby TokyoVigilante » Wed Dec 22, 2010 8:34 am

They're entries in a archetype started by Ultraman. It happens all the time when something new comes about.
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby gojimantis » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:25 pm

so...Zone kills Gigan after Vs. Megalon?
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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby Guardian7 » Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:29 pm

ZF makes Gigan blow up and go bye bye! (Course he was also whipped on by Godzilla previously... and got zapped by a pretty powerful looking stroke of electricity by the Zone Family).

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Re: Monster Discussion #33: Jet Jaguar

Postby Goji » Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:47 am

He was parachuted down because he was on an episode of Zone Fighter, and that's just "how they rolled". Over thinking it, is pretty pointless.

As for Jet Jaguar, he's the poop. You either love em', or you don't.


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