Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1964)

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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Cinematic Kaiju » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:50 pm

I think it was an american edit mistake, but i think the original Japanese version doesn't have that mistake. It's been a while since I watched Ghidorah, so don't quote me.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby therealmccoy » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:53 pm

Cinematic Kaiju wrote:I think it was an american edit mistake, but i think the original Japanese version doesn't have that mistake. It's been a while since I watched Ghidorah, so don't quote me.

On my Classic Media disc, it's still there. Whether it's on any other prints, I don't know.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Space Hunter M » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:11 pm

therealmccoy wrote:On my Classic Media disc, it's still there. Whether it's on any other prints, I don't know.


Uh, I'm pretty sure optical prints have nothing to do with a clearly overlooked assembly room audio problem.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby therealmccoy » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:15 pm

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therealmccoy wrote:On my Classic Media disc, it's still there. Whether it's on any other prints, I don't know.


Uh, I'm pretty sure optical prints have nothing to do with a clearly overlooked assembly room audio problem.

Sorry about that, I meant "versions". :oops:
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Ethan » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:18 pm

While it's very likely a goof, as a kid I used to believe Rodan was imitating Godzilla.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Space Hunter M » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:21 pm

therealmccoy wrote:Sorry about that, I meant "versions". :oops:


Which makes me wonder, you think they corrected this in the seventy minute Matsuri version?
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby therealmccoy » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:23 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:Which makes me wonder, you think they corrected this in the seventy minute Matsuri version?

I was just talking about the American and Japanese versions on the disc.

And not being a smartass, but what is the Matsuri version?
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Space Hunter M » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:31 pm

The version that played during the 1970 kiddy-matinee Champion Matsuri festival.
I believe David Kalat talked about this in the CM disk's commentary track overlaying the Continental cut.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby therealmccoy » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:39 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:The version that played during the 1970 kiddy-matinee Champion Matsuri festival.
I believe David Kalat talked about this in the CM disk's commentary track overlaying Continental cut.

Ok, I'll have to watch the commentary then. But since I don't know anything about it, I couldn't say about them fixing it. It would be interesting to find out though.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Space Hunter M » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:40 pm

therealmccoy wrote:It would be interesting to find out though.


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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Goji » Thu Sep 15, 2011 10:40 am

I believe the Matsuri version is on the Japanese BD release. If somebody on the site has it, they could confirm if it was changed or not.

I have the R2 of GHIDORAH, and the audio for Rodan is the same in the Japanese version.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Goji » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:38 am

I think the most perplexing thing about it is that it's used not once, but twice. It's always been really jarring to me, since I was kid in fact.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby gojimantis » Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:15 am

Goji wrote:I think the most perplexing thing about it is that it's used not once, but twice. It's always been really jarring to me, since I was kid in fact.

i always wondered about this too.why it was left in like that, it matches the beak quite well, it is clearly the wrong roar.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby TokyoVigilante » Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:51 pm

At first I thought they used it because they didn't have any short quick little "squawk" sounds based on Rodans regular (rather long and drawn out) roar that could be timed properly to how quick the moment in the scene is, but later he has a little squawk noise? : S So I don't even know. I'd love to hear why, though!
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Tamura » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:22 pm

The Matsuri does have the goof.
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Re: ghidora the three headed monster question

Postby Goji » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:59 am

^ Hmm, odd...That's definitely something I would have liked to ask Honda and Tsuburaya about if they were still around. TVG does have an interesting theory, and it's very possible that was the reason.
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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:34 pm

I watched it for the first time after a couple of years,its really a pretty good movie.
I felt simpathy for the character of the princess despite my dislike for monarchy(Freeeeeedooooooommm!!!!),Akiko Wakabayashi did a really good performance,Yuriko Hoshi was lovely and Akira Takarada was okay.

The monsters are great! The final battle is one of my favourites in the series.

The only thing i didn't liked about it(other than the usually phony looking effects) is Godzilla's atomic ray,what they did to it? Godzilla got a cold or something?(also the lack of military action)

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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:27 pm

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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1

Postby therealmccoy » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:00 pm

shinmattiathekaiju wrote:I watched it for the first time after a couple of years,its really a pretty good movie.
I felt simpathy for the character of the princess despite my dislike for monarchy(Freeeeeedooooooommm!!!!),Akiko Wakabayashi did a really good performance,Yuriko Hoshi was lovely and Akira Takarada was okay.

Takarada wasn't in this movie. ;)

As for Akiko Wakabayashi, I didn't think she did a great job of acting, but I took that as the nature of her character being written to be kind of bland. And she was sexy. Not as sexy as she was in Dogora, but definitely, well, I better stop here.

I liked this one better than Astro-Monster. While Astro-Monster may be a better-made film, I just couldn't find the amount of enjoyment from that one. And no, it wasn't because Godzilla and Rodan had such little screen time. I just thought it was boring. The monster fights were more engaging in this film to me. Sure, they cut away from it often, but it didn't bother me a bit. The human story was cool; I dig cop stuff, and I really like Yosuke Natsuki for some reason.
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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1

Postby shinmattiathekaiju » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:44 pm

The monsters also had little screen time in this movie.

DAM is still my favourite Godzilla movie after the first one.
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