Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1964)

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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1964)

Postby JAGzilla » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:00 pm

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Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:Yeah, DAM and Final Wars are much worse films. The female leads and Malness alone put this over those two. The photography with all the nature is also a higlight. Wish Tsuchiya could have played the villain, his performance would have been great to see.

Hey, so I'm that guy who thinks Final Wars was the best film in the Millenium Era, so while I agree that DAM wasn't spectaclar (thought that final battle almost made all of the rather boring plot worth sitting through), I just love Final Wars because it's fun. Objectively, its very flawed and not nearly the best film of the Millenium series, but whenever I'm in the mood to just sit down and have fun with a movie, Final Wars immediately comes to my mind. I'd say, objectively, GMK is the best Millenium film. But I just love watching Final Wars more because of sheer goofy entertainment value. It's like a ridiculous 70's Godzilla film with vastly updated special effects.

Oh yeah, and Final Wars has Don Frye and Kazuki Kitamura. So, that immediately makes it better than all the other Millenium films.


My knee-jerk reaction is to sneer because nobody should like a movie I don't like, buuut I'm the same way with Megaguirus. Terrible movie, but really great dumb fun. Godzilla was in full over the top badass mode, and the Dimension Tide is just hysterical.

And Don Frye was as bad as everything else in GFW, but had the decency to be entertaining about it.

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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1964)

Postby eabaker » Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:58 pm

JAGzilla wrote:
Gojirawars 03 wrote:
Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:Yeah, DAM and Final Wars are much worse films. The female leads and Malness alone put this over those two. The photography with all the nature is also a higlight. Wish Tsuchiya could have played the villain, his performance would have been great to see.

Hey, so I'm that guy who thinks Final Wars was the best film in the Millenium Era, so while I agree that DAM wasn't spectaclar (thought that final battle almost made all of the rather boring plot worth sitting through), I just love Final Wars because it's fun. Objectively, its very flawed and not nearly the best film of the Millenium series, but whenever I'm in the mood to just sit down and have fun with a movie, Final Wars immediately comes to my mind. I'd say, objectively, GMK is the best Millenium film. But I just love watching Final Wars more because of sheer goofy entertainment value. It's like a ridiculous 70's Godzilla film with vastly updated special effects.

Oh yeah, and Final Wars has Don Frye and Kazuki Kitamura. So, that immediately makes it better than all the other Millenium films.


My knee-jerk reaction is to sneer because nobody should like a movie I don't like, buuut I'm the same way with Megaguirus. Terrible movie, but really great dumb fun. Godzilla was in full over the top badass mode, and the Dimension Tide is just hysterical.

And Don Frye was as bad as everything else in GFW, but had the decency to be entertaining about it.


I don't find him at all entertaining. "Obnoxious" is the word I'd choose.
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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1964)

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Thu May 23, 2019 11:39 am

Rewatched the Japanese cut after a few years, and everything just clicked for me this time. I'd even say it has a permanent spot among my favorites.

Completely forgot Takashi Shimura was in this, it was a pleasure seeing him in another Godzilla film. The brother and sister duo were nice protagonists, I was invested in them and the Princess's story. The little bits of dialoge showing the assassin's history with the Princess in the hotel scene were neat, supposedly he also killed her father with that fancy knife.
I loved seeing the story pick up after MvG, but I think it takes place in the following year since the meteorologists at the beginning state it is January. I wish Naoko had a bigger presence in the latter half of the film, since she supposedly understood the Princess, and was the first protagonist introduced. Detective Shindo's reluctance in taking the job to protect the Princess showed a nice bit of detail about him, and I guess it came full circle since she ends up thanking him for saving her three times. The sibling duo had a believable chemistry, the scene where they bicker at their house got a decent laugh out of me.

Onto the fantastical elements, the idea that aliens from Venus took refugee on Earth 5,000 years ago perfectly lets us slide into the ideas of aliens in the following film. "Call to Happiness" is an underrated Mothra song, and I was thrilled to hear "Holy Springs" for a bit again.
King Ghidorah's name isn't revealed till the 50-minute mark, and it's just chilling. His famous entrance is as stunning as ever, and he is the definite KG to me. His theme blasting while we hear that eerie bell-like roar is magnificent. The story with Mothra and King Ghidorah are already great - incorporating Rodan & Godzilla are icing on an already well made cake. I love how the team characterized Godzilla and Rodan, the big G acts like me getting no sleep after a long day, while Rodan seems like that punk that runs a red light. The fight between them was memorable, the puppet shots didn't bother me, I also loved how once Godzilla gets his chance he just pummels Rodan.

The famous "monster ted talk" scene was shorter than I remember, maybe that's due to the mandela effect. The "oh Godzilla what terrible language" line wasn't present at all. I do love how Godzilla and Rodan are reluctant to help Mothra, it casts them as more than just big animals - in fact the Showa era always did great with these characters. The climatic fight is incredible, it's shot in a beautiful way; one part that stood out was Rodan leading KG on an aerial chase only to turn back and ram into him. I wonder why Godzilla never used his atomic breath, and with Mothra maybe lengthening the scene where she's getting pummeled by KG would give more time to show how deadly he is. She gets hit by gravity beams about twice within ten seconds before Godzilla shows up, a little too quick for a change of heart in my opinion. The duel between Detective Shindo and the assassin was a little off considering they both could've shot each other but kept missing.... even when Shindo was helping the Princess up while the shot shows he had a perfect shot. Nonetheless, the ending was satisfying and a wild ride.

A 8/10, a fun, well made film considering it was quickly made in place of a Kurosawa film. As I said it's earned place among my favorites, KOTM's gonna have a challenge having a human element as good as this film.
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Re: Talkback Thread #5: Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster(1964)

Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Fri May 31, 2019 9:32 am

I rewatched this just now and just like G14 I came away with a better opinion on it. It has some silly stuff on it but it's mostly pretty well realized. Shame the effects footage just wasn't up to par with the drama footage and it jumps around too much. There are some good moments nobody talks about, like everybody inside and out of a cafe rushing to watch the TV, or the usage of extreme close ups. Still the best Ghidorah, love how it's presence just permeates through everything and creates tension.
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