Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Ligerzilla2014 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:56 pm

hedorah looks too much like a walking pile of crap for my tastes. i personally prefer diarreah XD. just kidding :(

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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Hotrod93 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 6:41 pm

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gojimantis wrote:If Hedorah's final form is immune to Godzilla's atomic ray, how is it possible for him to become dehydrated by the JSDF?

Between the whole "being alien", the mixed amounts of chemicals in his body, the garbage, the sludge, and the etc. Hedorah's body could take it with no problem. G vs H Godzilla's beam IMO wasnt the strongest beam of the Godzilla line.

Have you ever seen what electric can do to a human body after enough of it is gone through it? It pretty much burns it so its going to dehydrated Hedorah.

that makes sense, but atomic energy and electricity both generate heat
I would assume that an "atomic heat ray" would have done more damage, a lot more heat evaporates moisture ( whatever that may be in hedorah) so it would have to have more of an effect on him than it seems to in the movie.

Even if they "ray" generated heat to dehydrated a part of Hedorah's body the rest of if body would cover it back up moisting it again so pretty much the ray would be pointless to due Hedorah being able to to keep itself moist cause of all the sludge and etc on his body. The reason the panels did so well was to due the fact of the largeness and the full body assult it had on Hedorah's body instead of Godzilla's single spotted ray.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Hotrod93 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:05 pm

Living Corpse wrote:That and electrcity goes through the whole body where as Godzilla's ray only hits one spot. Plus electrcity can be very hot, like lighting can be hotter then the surface of the sun.

Pretty much summed it up lol.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby edgaguirus » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:10 pm

Also remember that current put through water can cause electrolysis. The water molecules are seperated into seperate gases, and this destroys the water molecule. Hedorah needed the water to survive, and destroying the water molecules took away the very thing it needed most.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Mogu » Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:48 am

edgaguirus wrote:With pollution and global warming a big issue, Hedorah is the perfect symbol. He's dangerous, nearly unstoppable, and gave Godzilla a hard fight. Hedorah's film doesn't rate high with me, but the creative smog monster is a winner.

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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Kubo » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:50 am

As people have said before, Hedorah is a powerhouse. It took so much for him to actually die...think about it! Without those electric current tower things (thank you, vocab), Godzilla wouldn't have stood a chance against Hedorah.


One thing that really 'grinds me gears' in GFW is that Hedorah is killed (at least we can assume that) by Godzilla's atomic ray, but in 1971, Godzilla's ray didn't do jack squat on Hedorah.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby seamus » Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:46 pm

I think Hedorah's design is simple and effective, and the character has social relevance to it, so it makes the threat of it seem more real and imposing. The film's style is fun and experimental, but still retains moments of eerieness to it related to Hedorah. And Hedorah is personally my favorite cameo in Final Wars...that scene was way too short.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Rody » Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:00 pm

Hedorah should have just been axed from GFW. It's too bad, because he really deserves better.

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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby King Kong » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:14 pm

King Caesar wrote:One thing that really 'grinds me gears' in GFW is that Hedorah is killed (at least we can assume that) by Godzilla's atomic ray, but in 1971, Godzilla's ray didn't do jack squat on Hedorah.


Yeah, Godzilla simply using his atomic ray and taking out Hedorah in GFW just came across as a extremely rushed way of including the character, but keeping Hedorah's screentime to an absolute minimum.

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Postby therealmccoy » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:20 pm

Didn't he actually have more screen time in Final Wars? Or was the footage in the credits just footage for the credits and nothing else?

Anyway, a great monster. Weird movie, but one of Godzilla's most dangerous foes. I actually found the concept of Hedorah almost as interesting as Biollante; a not-so-ridiculous origin story, the different forms and what-not, and his means of sustenance (no, I'm not talking about him puffing on the smokestacks).
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Kubo » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:01 am

therealmccoy wrote:Didn't he actually have more screen time in Final Wars? Or was the footage in the credits just footage for the credits and nothing else?


I believe that the credit footage is the only other footage of him in all of FW. It's a real shame too; I loved his design in that. The only monsters that were letdowns was Piggly Wiggly Anguiras and Kumonga, who must've shed all his pricklies between Showa and FW.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Rody » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:20 pm

therealmccoy wrote:Didn't he actually have more screen time in Final Wars? Or was the footage in the credits just footage for the credits and nothing else?


It probably was supposed to be in the film, and was just cut out for some reason. It's too bad. :|

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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby therealmccoy » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:15 pm

Rody wrote:
therealmccoy wrote:Didn't he actually have more screen time in Final Wars? Or was the footage in the credits just footage for the credits and nothing else?


It probably was supposed to be in the film, and was just cut out for some reason. It's too bad. :|

Yeah; it was kind of hard to stomach seeing one of Godzilla's most dangerous opponents just blasted to oblivion in a split second. An opponent that was supposed to be immune to almost all forms of weaponry, including Godzilla's ray.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Rody » Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:07 pm

You know, I think I remember reading somewhere that Kitamura had apologized for Hedorah's minor screen time; something about "not enough room in the film," or something like that.

That credit footage was probably supposed to be in the actual film, but had to be cut for time reasons.

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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Zilla103192 » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:27 pm

Hedorah is pretty skreeonking cool. I always liked him.

I would love to see Hedorah in a new movie (his 3 seconds in Final Wars don't count) where just everything he touches melts down or disintegrates. Making him a SERIOUSLY dangerous foe against Godzilla.
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:16 pm

Was Hedorah alien or mutant?
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:30 pm

:eh:

what :?: EXPLAIN :?
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby Patrick Alan » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:42 pm

Oh, ok I get it, thanks
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby ghidorasauras » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:23 pm

only toho could make a monster out of poop...
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Re: Monster Discussion #31: Hedorah (Showa)

Postby JAGzilla » Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:02 pm

^ ...and actually make it work. I'm not generally a big fan of sludge/blob/whatever monsters, but Hedorah is an exception. His final form is one of my favorite suits in the series. Very creepy, very alien. Those big, soulless eyes, the ragged, dripping 'skin', the weird, gurgling roar... it all combines into a really sinister, memorable villain design. The flying form and its mass-murdering acid mist worked very well, too.

I haven't seen his movie in years, unfortunately. I'll need to get the DVD at some point.


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