What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

For the discussion of Toho produced and distributed films or shows released before 1980.
User avatar
Shhh! The Octopus
Interpol Agent
Posts: 718
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:06 am

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Shhh! The Octopus » Thu Mar 14, 2019 5:00 am

Ragone mentioned this a couple of years ago on the CHFB. I think he came across the info in some Japanese periodical. This was after his book was already published and before he wrote the FMOF article.

User avatar
LSD Jellyfish
Kwaidan
Posts: 6390
Joined: Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:57 pm
Location: 富士山

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Thu Mar 14, 2019 8:33 am

Bear in mind that the term “considered for” is vague and useless at best. Is it that some of the producers over beers said,”hey wouldn’t it be cool if we had X monster in a movie?” And sortve never went beyond that? Is it that concept art was made, or there was a version of the script that had said monster? Did Tanaka or someone propose something formally? I say unless it moves beyond the proposal stage in any capacity it’s sortve worthless debating what could have been. I garuntee you that for each showa film there’s dozens of unused monsters or monsters shifted around that we haven’t heard of but exist only being mentioned.
_JNavs_ wrote:The MV is like cheap imitation crabmeat, it tastes good, but it isn't real, while Shin is kino peak Japanese performance.

Rodan95 wrote:The Shobijin are sat on by a fatass explorer and killed. Mothra is pissed and destroys Japan.

User avatar
Living Corpse
Seatopian Daikaiju
Posts: 10204
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Living Corpse » Thu Mar 14, 2019 11:23 am

Dr. Professor wrote:I think it would've been really cool to see Godzilla and King Kong become allies. But hopefully Toho would've eventually made a better Kong suit. :lol:


Yeah, was a shame he couldn't be in Destroy All Monsters. But then again that might be why a relativly unknown C lister like Gorosauras had his moment to shine where he helped kill King Ghidorah.
Image

User avatar
Poe Ghostal
Interpol Agent
Posts: 412
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:16 am
Contact:

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Poe Ghostal » Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:34 am

Gorosaurus was in DAM, so I'm sure if Toho could have put King Kong in it they would have. But the rights expired. I'm sure the idea of putting Kong in there was considered or would have been considered if they had the rights.

The only real question is whether the Kong rights and the plans for DAM overlapped enough for there to be some concept art or production notes or something.
Poe Ghostal's Points of Articulation - Toy news, reviews, & commentary

KingKong2005
G-Grasper
Posts: 1354
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:33 am

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby KingKong2005 » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:34 pm

Do you guys think King Kong would have kept his electricity powers in DAM? How much damage would he take/inflict upon King Ghidorah in the final battle?
Image Image Image Image Image Image
Image

User avatar
miguelnuva
Seatopian Daikaiju
Posts: 11831
Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:32 pm

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby miguelnuva » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:37 pm

I think Godzilla would have stayed a Villain or anti-hero at best. I could see Kong being Monster Zero One and Godzilla Monster Zero Two in IOAM and of course Kong would headline DAM.

The biggest change here is we would have Gotten Godzilla vs King Kong in 91.
The one thing I want to see in life,TOHO buy Gamera.

Shadow Area 1-0

edgaguirus
Kwaidan
Posts: 5509
Joined: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:25 pm

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:12 pm

I agree with G vs KK 91.

However, I don't think Kong would have shadowed over Godzilla. Godzilla was Toho's baby and they would have likely kept him the star rather than an American monster. As for DAM, I could see Kong taking the place of Gorosaurus. Kong gets behind KG and shocks him, and this allows the other monsters to move in and take KG down.
Kaiju are just like people- giant, radioactive people.

Megalon went into a bar and saw Gigan. Megalon said, " Again? I thought you gave this up."
" What can I say," Gigan asked. " I'm hooked."

KingKong2005
G-Grasper
Posts: 1354
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:33 am

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby KingKong2005 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 2:48 pm

edgaguirus wrote:As for DAM, I could see Kong taking the place of Gorosaurus. Kong gets behind KG and shocks him, and this allows the other monsters to move in and take KG down.

Kong holding Ghidorah's tails in place as he shocks them while the other monsters work their magic is total erection.

Y'all think the 1962 suit would be used again for DAM or would there have been a new suit entirely? I would hate the 67 suit being used, 62 suit woulda looked awesome in that crowd.
Image Image Image Image Image Image
Image

User avatar
UltramanGoji
Seatopian Daikaiju
Posts: 14045
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:40 am
Location: Western New York
Contact:

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby UltramanGoji » Tue Mar 19, 2019 3:14 pm

Absolutely not. The 1968 Godzilla suit was rotting by 1972, there's no way the 1962 Kong suit would have survived that long and looked just as good (well, as good as it could look anyway).
Image

User avatar
MaxRebo320
G-Force Lieutenant
Posts: 2224
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:56 pm
Location: albaquarky
Contact:

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby MaxRebo320 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 4:18 pm

Also considering the fact the 62 suit was salvaged for certain scenes (Most notably the fight between Kong and the sea serpent), no. Unless you would have been cool with a scummy-looking suit with an abnormally large head. Who knows if they would have been keen enough on the 67 suit to keep using it (It was certainly in good enough condition), or make another new suit (Like in the case with Godzilla).
Last edited by MaxRebo320 on Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:48 am, edited 2 times in total.
Beta Capsule Reviews - Your Guide to Ultraman & other Tokusatsu episode-by-episode!
https://betacapsulereviews.wordpress.com
three wrote:leave me be maxrebo! damn you and your ability to play the game here....

User avatar
UltramanGoji
Seatopian Daikaiju
Posts: 14045
Joined: Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:40 am
Location: Western New York
Contact:

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby UltramanGoji » Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:21 pm

MaxRebo320 wrote:Also considering the fact the 62 suit was salvaged for certain scenes (Most notably the fight between Kong and the sea serpent), no.


Almost forgot that it was used for the Ultra Q monster Goro as well. If Baragon couldn't be salvageable post-Ultraman, I doubt Kong would've.
Image

User avatar
AllosaurHell
Yin-Yang Master
Posts: 205
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2019 2:28 pm
Location: Baja Blast Temple, Hollow Earth

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby AllosaurHell » Tue Aug 13, 2019 3:26 pm

I would have loved to have seen more Toho Kong, I think King Kong Escapes is underrated and seeing the King Kong from that movie interact with DAM Godzilla would be so epic to me. I also think Godzilla and Kong would have become friends and hell, maybe he would have assisted Anguirus and Godzilla in Godzilla vs Gigan, just a cool thought that came to my head so of course it's just wishful thinking.
"Listen, it's a free country. It's not rent-free country."
- Mr. Ditkovich from Spider-Man 3.

Check out my YouTube channels: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNmWOVX-6Whjz3BPwEMXG0Q https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYySx8TfhJp16vDvNTvTlRQ

KingKong2005
G-Grasper
Posts: 1354
Joined: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:33 am

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby KingKong2005 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:30 pm

AllosaurHell wrote:I would have loved to have seen more Toho Kong, I think King Kong Escapes is underrated and seeing the King Kong from that movie interact with DAM Godzilla would be so epic to me. I also think Godzilla and Kong would have become friends and hell, maybe he would have assisted Anguirus and Godzilla in Godzilla vs Gigan, just a cool thought that came to my head so of course it's just wishful thinking.

Not to mention how smart that particular version of King Kong was! Creating stone steps for himself and shiit! I have a thing for '62 Kong, seeing that one interact with Godzilla as a teammate would be rad!
Image Image Image Image Image Image
Image

User avatar
Living Corpse
Seatopian Daikaiju
Posts: 10204
Joined: Sat Dec 27, 2014 10:49 pm

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Living Corpse » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:15 pm

KingKong2005 wrote:
edgaguirus wrote:As for DAM, I could see Kong taking the place of Gorosaurus. Kong gets behind KG and shocks him, and this allows the other monsters to move in and take KG down.

Kong holding Ghidorah's tails in place as he shocks them while the other monsters work their magic is total erection.

Y'all think the 1962 suit would be used again for DAM or would there have been a new suit entirely? I would hate the 67 suit being used, 62 suit woulda looked awesome in that crowd.


He would have ripped and tear Ghidorah's three testicles off.
Image

User avatar
Shhh! The Octopus
Interpol Agent
Posts: 718
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:06 am

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Shhh! The Octopus » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:23 am

KingKong2005 wrote:Not to mention how smart that particular version of King Kong was!


He also understood English.

"Koooooong. I eat and drink on this ship Koooong."
"Stop rocking the ship Koooong"
"Kooooooooooooooooooong!"

Image
Image
Last edited by Shhh! The Octopus on Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Destoroyah of Worlds
JXSDF Technician
Posts: 998
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:11 pm

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Destoroyah of Worlds » Fri Aug 16, 2019 3:26 pm

I think King Kong would have showed up at the end of Destroy All Monsters and they would have made one or two more solo Kong movies with a better suit.

Ebirah, Horror of the Deep might be a King Kong movie.

Long term? I don't see much of a difference. Godzilla started becoming a cash cow, and was more viable as a long term money maker. King Kong was getting more and more fringe and might have performed worse.
Come fourth, Ghidorah! Great Golden Winged Destroyer; deliver onto us a beautiful demise!

User avatar
Shhh! The Octopus
Interpol Agent
Posts: 718
Joined: Sat Aug 22, 2015 8:06 am

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Shhh! The Octopus » Sat Aug 17, 2019 6:26 am

Could you imagine being a kid and seeing this face on the cover of a magazine back in 1967?
Image

User avatar
tyrantgoji
G-Force Lieutenant
Posts: 2181
Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:52 pm
Location: Halley's Comet.

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby tyrantgoji » Sat Aug 17, 2019 8:23 am

Octopus,why must you feel the need to show us this nightmare Kong stuff? :P

User avatar
miguelnuva
Seatopian Daikaiju
Posts: 11831
Joined: Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:32 pm

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby miguelnuva » Sat Aug 17, 2019 10:58 am

We needed a MusukoGoji and GoroKong wayer suit team up movie.
The one thing I want to see in life,TOHO buy Gamera.

Shadow Area 1-0

User avatar
Red-Death Gigan
Interpol Agent
Posts: 454
Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:53 am

Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Red-Death Gigan » Sat Aug 17, 2019 11:02 am

Kong & Sandy vs Gaira & Oodaku!
... Godzilla lives inside each one of us.


Return to “Showa Series (1930's-1970's)”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest