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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby _JNavs_ » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:39 pm

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_JNavs_ wrote:Both lol, but mainly I was thinking, Jet was a kids drawing brought to life from a contest right? Could it be possible that they originally had Kong lined up, but since the license couldn't be agreed to they decided to get a contest going?


There has never been any evidence that suggests that was ever a possibility. No English sources, no Japanese sources, nothing.
I only said likely because I think he'd fit well in that film in the place of Jet. I probably could've worded it better.


I also said "Could it be possible" as a question. Not a statement.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Smuggers » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:47 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:I also said "Could it be possible" as a question.

And you got an answer.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Terasawa » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:49 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:I also said "Could it be possible" as a question.


And I answered it.

It's technically possible that Kong could have been considered for any Godzilla movie from 1963 to 19XX but it's unreasonable to think his character was ever seriously considered, at least after King Kong Escapes and Destroy All Monsters (apparently the last time Toho considered the character in the Showa era, dubious source).
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby _JNavs_ » Mon Feb 25, 2019 2:49 pm

Smuggers wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:I also said "Could it be possible" as a question.

And you got an answer.

Thanks Smug, can always count on you ;)

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_JNavs_ wrote:I also said "Could it be possible" as a question.


And I answered it.

It's technically possible that Kong could have been considered for any Godzilla movie from 1963 to 19XX but it's unreasonable to think his character was ever seriously considered, at least after King Kong Escapes and Destroy All Monsters (apparently the last time Toho considered the character in the Showa era, dubious source).

Would've liked to see a Heisei era GvK
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Smuggers » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:04 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:Would've liked to see a Heisei era GvK

What kind of beam would they give Kong? ;)
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby _JNavs_ » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:09 pm

Smuggers wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:Would've liked to see a Heisei era GvK

What kind of beam would they give Kong? ;)

Electric lightening thunder handbeams of course what kinda question is that

The entire film is just one big beam spam ending with them falling backwards into the ocean
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Postby Mr_Goji_and_Watch » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:12 pm

I wonder what kind of character arc Kong would have if he were in the Heisei era.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Dr. Professor » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:28 pm

Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:I wonder what kind of character arc Kong would have if he were in the Heisei era.

Probably one brought to life with the bast speshal effecks evar!!1!!!one!!
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:35 am

Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:I wonder what kind of character arc Kong would have if he were in the Heisei era.

Easy. Kong was a normal gorilla, or even a gorilla found in skull island, until he was expiremented with by an evil doctor who injected him with G Cells! He grows, escapes captivity, and pursues the female doctor/nurse that protected and took care of him. When Godzilla inadvertently attacks and kills the lady Kong goes on a rampage and fights Godzilla.

Unfortunately there’s only so much you can do with Kong.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:31 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:
Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:I wonder what kind of character arc Kong would have if he were in the Heisei era.

Easy. Kong was a normal gorilla, or even a gorilla found in skull island, until he was expiremented with by an evil doctor who injected him with G Cells! He grows, escapes captivity, and pursues the female doctor/nurse that protected and took care of him. When Godzilla inadvertently attacks and kills the lady Kong goes on a rampage and fights Godzilla.

Unfortunately there’s only so much you can do with Kong.

He was being sarcastic because some people actually believe Godzilla Jr had a character arc.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby _JNavs_ » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:36 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
LSD Jellyfish wrote:
Mr_Goji_and_Watch wrote:I wonder what kind of character arc Kong would have if he were in the Heisei era.

Easy. Kong was a normal gorilla, or even a gorilla found in skull island, until he was expiremented with by an evil doctor who injected him with G Cells! He grows, escapes captivity, and pursues the female doctor/nurse that protected and took care of him. When Godzilla inadvertently attacks and kills the lady Kong goes on a rampage and fights Godzilla.

Unfortunately there’s only so much you can do with Kong.

He was being sarcastic because some people actually believe Godzilla Jr had a character arc.

Aka me because Jr actually went through skreeonk and I had said it was a "character" arc.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:37 pm

_JNavs_ wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:He was being sarcastic because some people actually believe Godzilla Jr had a character arc.

Aka me because Jr actually went through skreeonk and I had said it was a "character" arc.

Oh, I'm not taking a jab at you or anything. Just clearing it up.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby _JNavs_ » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:39 pm

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:He was being sarcastic because some people actually believe Godzilla Jr had a character arc.

Aka me because Jr actually went through skreeonk and I had said it was a "character" arc.

Oh, I'm not taking a jab at you or anything. Just clearing it up.

Oh yeah I know lol, I just know ever since I said that GojiNWatch has had a vendetta lmao
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:25 am

I answer sarcastic questions seriously; oh no the horror. The point is that Kong’s on history is limiting.
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Postby G2000 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:03 am

_JNavs_ wrote:Would've liked to see a Heisei era GvK


Would have been neat had they gone through with it. I especially wonder how a Heisei-era Kong suit would have looked, or if it would have been a worthy successor to the original KKvG or not.

Is there any reason to believe that Universal would have let them go through with it had Toho known Turner didn’t have the rights to Kong?
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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 7:37 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:I answer sarcastic questions seriously; oh no the horror. The point is that Kong’s on history is limiting.

I wasn't disagreeing with that. :D
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby goji89 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:11 pm

Smuggers wrote:
_JNavs_ wrote:Would've liked to see a Heisei era GvK

What kind of beam would they give Kong? ;)


I believe that has been answered by our very own Chris55

"Kong would fling poop so fast it would turn into a beam".
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby KingKong2005 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:46 pm

I think we can all picture a longer arm, buffer, longer face 1976 design for King Kong in the Heisei series, but HOW do you think he'd look in the Showa series if he came back for say either a Jet Jaguar replacement or being in DAM? By the way, not saying there is any evidence he was legit considered for either films, it's just fun speculation.

How do you think he'd look if he replaced Godzilla in Godzilla's Vs The Sea Monster? Literal King Kong Escapes suit?

Another one, but could someone clarify about the recently uncovered evidence that Toho was screwed over due to King Kong's title and design being in Public Domain, meaning they could have used him? Something like that recently came up, not sure if you guys have heard of it or I'm just being crazy.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby Poe Ghostal » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:35 pm

UltramanGoji wrote:Alright, so it cites an article by August Ragone in an issue of Famous Monsters of Filmland...one that I happen to own actually. Ragone also mentions Ebirah and the Gargantuas being considered.

Honestly, it still reeks of bullshit to me. I’ve looked in Ragone’s own book as well as others and this article is the only place I’ve ever seen say that King Kong was considered for DAM.


John LeMay mentions it on page 171 of his Big Book of Japanese Giant Monster Movies 1954-1982 as well. He doesn’t cite his source though, so it could be the Ragone article or even the Wikipedia page for all I know.
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Re: What If Toho Was Able To Use King Kong Again Post 62?

Postby UltramanGoji » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:42 pm

I don't own the first of LeMay's books, but I do own the Lost Films book and none of the DAM draft entries mention Kong.
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