Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

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Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Mothralover1997 » Thu May 07, 2015 5:21 pm

I just saw this movie (Japanese Version)- And I have to say, I don't know what to make of it. Has anybody else seen it?
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Missingno. » Thu May 07, 2015 5:41 pm

Trash. That is what I have to say about the film. The acting is terrible and the almost never-seen Nataral appear only one time, which is briefly, and it makes them seem less of a threat due to their lack of screen time. The only thing that makes this film really worthwhile is the SFX. I can't see this as a pseudo-sequel to The Mysterians, I just can't... Just like GINO and Godzilla's Revenge, this film is very passable, and wouldn't hurt if you never watch it.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Thu May 07, 2015 7:36 pm

I have a DVD of it but I've never actually watched it all the way through. I watched like the first ten minutes and gave up. I feel like if I try to watch it again I'll have the same experience. Mysterians was awesome, this wasn't.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Tohosaurus » Thu May 07, 2015 8:34 pm

Meh.....I prefer watching it with the commentary on because of how informative it is.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby NSZ » Thu May 07, 2015 8:36 pm

It's a skreeonking chore to sit through.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Thu May 07, 2015 9:50 pm

Based on all your reactions the question now is:
Is Battle in outer Space the worst TOHO scifi production?
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Julia Bristow » Fri May 08, 2015 5:55 am

A decent scifi film (IMO anyway) yeah its not that great of a film (the acting in this film is nothing to write home about but the visual effects are pretty good) as for BIOS being the worst Toho scifi film my answer is no that honor belongs to Space Amoeba
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri May 08, 2015 7:12 am

Julia Bristow wrote:A decent scifi film (IMO anyway) yeah its not that great of a film (the acting in this film is nothing to write home about but the visual effects are pretty good) as for BIOS being the worst Toho scifi film my answer is no that honor belongs to Space Amoeba

What? Space Amoeba is pretty good. It had a lot of monster action, cool soundtrack. For once the humans were really integral to the plot as well.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Young Guy » Fri May 08, 2015 9:39 am

Isn't this just a Star Wars rip-off?

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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Mothralover1997 » Fri May 08, 2015 11:17 am

Young Guy wrote:Isn't this just a Star Wars rip-off?

This movie came out in 1959. Star Wars was released in 1977. So no. That fraud Lucas has been ripping off Toho's imaginative masterpieces since the beginning.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Young Guy » Fri May 08, 2015 11:45 am

Mothralover1997 wrote:
Young Guy wrote:Isn't this just a Star Wars rip-off?

This movie came out in 1959. Star Wars was released in 1977. So no. That fraud Lucas has been ripping off Toho's imaginative masterpieces since the beginning.

Huh, well then. I guess Chewbacca is a rip-off the Beastman.

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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri May 08, 2015 1:36 pm

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Young Guy wrote:Isn't this just a Star Wars rip-off?

This movie came out in 1959. Star Wars was released in 1977. So no. That fraud Lucas has been ripping off Toho's imaginative masterpieces since the beginning.

I wouldn't call it a rip off. Elements of Star Wars 1977 were taken from Kurosawa's hidden fortress and it makes you wonder if this was an inspiration. However being inspired and taking elements from something doesn't make it bad, nothing in fiction is wholly original. A lot of the alien designs were original and there was a lot of creativity involved in the original Star Wars.
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Rodan95 wrote:The Shobijin are sat on by a fatass explorer and killed. Mothra is pissed and destroys Japan.

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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Legion1979 » Fri May 08, 2015 1:36 pm

Young Guy wrote:Isn't this just a Star Wars rip-off?


You're thinking of War in Space, made in 1977. THAT'S the Star Wars rip off.

Battle in Outer Space isn't perfect, but it's far from trash. Give me a break with that poop. At least give it a watch for it's musical score and special effects.

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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Missingno. » Fri May 08, 2015 1:43 pm

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Julia Bristow wrote:A decent scifi film (IMO anyway) yeah its not that great of a film (the acting in this film is nothing to write home about but the visual effects are pretty good) as for BIOS being the worst Toho scifi film my answer is no that honor belongs to Space Amoeba

What? Space Amoeba is pretty good. It had a lot of monster action, cool soundtrack. For once the humans were really integral to the plot as well.


I wouldn't put this one at the very bottom of the list, but it is pretty far down there, and I'd say Godzilla's Revenge is the dead last. And why do you say Space Amoeba? I got it on DVD it a couple of days ago in its original cut having low expectations, but was actually very impressed with it, and it was definitely the last film of the golden age of Japanese cinema, though good ones would follow as well.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

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Young Guy wrote:Isn't this just a Star Wars rip-off?

This movie came out in 1959. Star Wars was released in 1977. So no. That fraud Lucas has been ripping off Toho's imaginative masterpieces since the beginning.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Young Guy » Sat May 09, 2015 11:10 am

Legion1979 wrote:
Young Guy wrote:Isn't this just a Star Wars rip-off?


You're thinking of War in Space, made in 1977. THAT'S the Star Wars rip off.

Battle in Outer Space isn't perfect, but it's far from trash. Give me a break with that poop. At least give it a watch for it's musical score and special effects.

Oh, yeah. That's the one. I got them both mixed up. Sorry!

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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Space Hunter M » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:14 pm

Why does the Japanese version open with the "distributed by" variant of the Toho logo?
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby Rodan » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:28 pm

I honestly haven't been able to finish it.

This movie is all about showcasing Toho's space effects work. It's incredibly dull.

It's Destroy All Monsters without the monster scenes, and I already find that a chore to sit through. The effects are impressive, but not enough to hang a film on.

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Postby Space Hunter M » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:36 pm

Also, what the is the deal with the inexplicable "long version" that aired in Japan two years ago? Is it an unfinished version of the film? It doesn't have the destruction of the Golden Gate bridge, has some uglier composites, and a few alternate angles.
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Re: Talkback:Battle in Outer Space (1959)

Postby eabaker » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:13 pm

Rodan wrote:I honestly haven't been able to finish it.

This movie is all about showcasing Toho's space effects work. It's incredibly dull.

It's Destroy All Monsters without the monster scenes, and I already find that a chore to sit through. The effects are impressive, but not enough to hang a film on.


I've only watched it once, and found it hugely entertaining, but it helped that the guy I was watching it with was super into it. It's really due for another viewing soon. We'll see how watching it with my wife alters my perceptions.
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