Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

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Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:07 pm

Not sure if there's ever been one of these for Gorosaurus but the search system sucks.

Anyways opinions on Gorosaurus?
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In King Kong escapes IMO he was the best part of the film. The main antagonist Mechani Kong never really fought King Kong (or at least had a super lame climbing fight). Gorosaurus definitely stood out the most especially with his kick,

I think he was the breakout character of Destroy All Monsters. He's one of the few formerly non Godzilla monsters that has any impact on the final fight and is actually a key player. It was also cool how he destroyed the arch in Paris.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby edgaguirus » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:01 pm

I like Gorosaurus. He was no doubt inspired by the T-Rex from the 33 Kong, but his kick did make him seem more than your common dinosaur. He looks great, too. He did distinguish himself in DAM. For just a giant therapod, he tilted the battle in favor of the Earth kaiju. Gorosaurus deserves some respect.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby AllPowersCombined » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:13 am

He's really nice-looking but he took Baragon's JEEEB. Just like Anguirus later. Good for IDW to correct history (actually I've still got problems with the Paris scene from DAM, it's clearly Gorosaurus but the movie is treating it as Baragon's attack).
I like the guy but we may never see him again.

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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby NSZ » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:59 am

AllPowersCombined wrote:He's really nice-looking but he took Baragon's JEEEB. Just like Anguirus later. Good for IDW to correct history (actually I've still got problems with the Paris scene from DAM, it's clearly Gorosaurus but the movie is treating it as Baragon's attack).
I like the guy but we may never see him again.


That's actually a misconception. Anguirus was involved with the 20th anniversary film before it even became Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla.

But anyway, Gorosaurus, easily one of my favorite Showa monsters despite appearing so little. He did so much in so little screen time.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:59 am

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AllPowersCombined wrote:He's really nice-looking but he took Baragon's JEEEB. Just like Anguirus later. Good for IDW to correct history (actually I've still got problems with the Paris scene from DAM, it's clearly Gorosaurus but the movie is treating it as Baragon's attack).
I like the guy but we may never see him again.


That's actually a misconception. Anguirus was involved with the 20th anniversary film before it even became Godzilla vs MechaGodzilla.

But anyway, Gorosaurus, easily one of my favorite Showa monsters despite appearing so little. He did so much in so little screen time.


I think partially the reason why he's so cool is because he fits nicely alongside the early Ancient Kaiju. Like before Ghidorah all of the Kaiju were really basic looking and didn't have any special abilities really save for Godzilla. Gorosaurus is probably the most generic looking monster other than the octopus but he still shines. I agree with the idea he did so much in the time he had as well.

In regards to the common misconception of Anguruius replacing Baragon where did that originate? I know it grew a lot due to James Rolfe saying it in one of his reviews but I'm pretty sure it existed before than and I believed it.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby NSZ » Fri Mar 06, 2015 10:14 am

LSD Jellyfish wrote:In regards to the common misconception of Anguruius replacing Baragon where did that originate? I know it grew a lot due to James Rolfe saying it in one of his reviews but I'm pretty sure it existed before than and I believed it.


Someone probably observed Anguirus' behavior in GvsMG and figured since Baragon got swapped out with Gorosaurus in DAM, he got swiped out in this film as well, and I guess the idea took root and spread because we in the Western fandom didn't really know any better (I mean, we were pretty much falsely led to believe that Baragon was more popular than Anguirus over in Japan).
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby AllPowersCombined » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:20 pm

NSZ wrote:
Someone probably observed Anguirus' behavior in GvsMG and figured since Baragon got swapped out with Gorosaurus in DAM, he got swiped out in this film as well, and I guess the idea took root and spread because we in the Western fandom didn't really know any better (I mean, we were pretty much falsely led to believe that Baragon was more popular than Anguirus over in Japan).


Pretty much. I didn't even think of James Rolfe. His recap of the Godzilla series is full of errors and it's a pretty poor watch today.
I think I got ahead of myself. Of course Anguirus was the only logical choice for MechaGodzilla's victim. People are used to seeing Baragon as the monster who always gets the short end of the stick. It probably helped that in 1968, "Gorosaurus" took Baragon's role as the underground kaiju and Anguirus of course also displayed such abilities in GvsMG Sort of. We know that even Godzilla spent some time underground before Mothra vs. Godzilla.

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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:47 pm

AllPowersCombined wrote:
NSZ wrote:
Someone probably observed Anguirus' behavior in GvsMG and figured since Baragon got swapped out with Gorosaurus in DAM, he got swiped out in this film as well, and I guess the idea took root and spread because we in the Western fandom didn't really know any better (I mean, we were pretty much falsely led to believe that Baragon was more popular than Anguirus over in Japan).


Pretty much. I didn't even think of James Rolfe. His recap of the Godzilla series is full of errors and it's a pretty poor watch today.
I think I got ahead of myself. Of course Anguirus was the only logical choice for MechaGodzilla's victim. People are used to seeing Baragon as the monster who always gets the short end of the stick. It probably helped that in 1968, "Gorosaurus" took Baragon's role as the underground kaiju and Anguirus of course also displayed such abilities in GvsMG Sort of. We know that even Godzilla spent some time underground before Mothra vs. Godzilla.

Baragon didn't get the short stick as much as people think. In his own movie he was one of the main focuses and had a large screen time. In King Kong escapes Gorosaurus is pretty much just there to have an early fight and show King Kong's strength. Gorosaurus deserved the time in DAM much more than Baragon.
In KKE Gorosaurus is also a badass because even after King Kong beats the poop out of him he bites King Kong randomly when King Kong walks by and resumes the fight not giving up. Gorosaurus never fought Godzilla but he went up against two of Godzilla's strongest enemies: King Ghidorah and King Kong. So even though he's not super strong he's definitely stronger than a lot of other weaker kaiju like Baragon, Anguirus, Manda, Varan etc...

Also as a complete side while his Godzillathon is full of errors I'm glad he did it because I think he introduced Godzilla to a lot of people who weren't familiar with Godzilla otherwise.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby Living Corpse » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:26 pm

An unlikely monster, who would have guessed that he, a pretty much unknown nobody, would have been a key factor leading to King Ghidorah's death.

Actually glad to see someone be important in killing a big name monster when they them self are not a big name monster. Don't think anyone saw that coming from a monster who just looks like a giant dinosaur and not an abnormal freak like Godzilla or Baragon. Also, nice touch of him and Godzilla looking at each other, roaring after seeing Anggy get curb stomped and then charging Ghidorah. Gave a sense they were talking.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby Tyrant_Lizard_King » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:18 pm

I like Goro. I loved his interaction with the other kaiju in DAM and the suit is really nicely detailed too.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:51 pm

Does anyone know why a lot of promotional images for King Kong Escapes has Gorosaurus in the artic? It could have just been false advertising but I'm wondering if originally he was supposed to have greater involvement or something.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Mar 08, 2015 8:44 pm

The poster shows Gorosaurus in the Arctic just because it looks cool. It was an advertising ploy.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:16 pm

Here's some really bad footage of Gorosaurus from Go Greenman:
http://youtu.be/-iq_ITwQ6xc
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 12:20 pm

Gorosaurus was definitely a highlight of King Kong Escapes and it's sad that he only had the one scene. It would've been fun to get a battle royale between him and the two Kongs at the end of the film. He was great in Destroy All Monsters too, even being pivotal in taking King Ghidorah out once and for all - If it weren't for his kick, the fight might've gone on a lot longer. I loved his little moment with Godzilla during the fight: "Alright, let's go get this guy!" "Sounds great, let's do it!" It's brief, but it's a nice little moment for the characters. I would've loved a movie where Godzilla and Gorosaurus teamed up against the villain kaiju, like with Anguirus in Godzilla vs. Gigan.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby edgaguirus » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:04 pm

I'm not sure how the suit would have looked in the 70s, but it looked in good condition in 68. Seeing Gorosaurus later might have been nice, but you know how Toho prefers using more popular and better known monsters.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby LSD Jellyfish » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:01 pm

edgaguirus wrote:I'm not sure how the suit would have looked in the 70s, but it looked in good condition in 68. Seeing Gorosaurus later might have been nice, but you know how Toho prefers using more popular and better known monsters.

The link I posted two posts prior show how he woulda looked. It's sad honestly.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby B34sT » Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:25 pm

Gorosaurus is definitely one of my favorite kaiju period. He is so simple but his role in DAM made me love his character so much. In DAM he was the only monster that went physical with KG and was able to knock him down while only taking a knee when shot at by gravity bolts.
LSD Jellyfish wrote:Here's some really bad footage of Gorosaurus from Go Greenman:
http://youtu.be/-iq_ITwQ6xc

That is truly heartbreaking to watch :(.

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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby LamangoKaijura » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:11 pm

LSD Jellyfish wrote:Here's some really bad footage of Gorosaurus from Go Greenman:
http://youtu.be/-iq_ITwQ6xc

Oh man, Gorosaurus hit the booze hard before the 80s.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby SoleMan » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:27 am

He always looked really depressed to me.
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Re: Monster Discussion #X Gorosaurus

Postby Missingno. » Sat Mar 14, 2015 6:03 am

I don't know why everyone complains about Baragon needing more screen time... Sure, I understand that Gorosaurus being used for an attack that was treated as Baragon's is confusing and disappointing, but he did have his own film in which he fights Frankenstein, whereas Gorosaurus has a short fight between King Kong and gets to really shine in DaM, but even then, he still has less time than Baragon ever did.

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