Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Rody » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:09 pm

Tyler wrote:Well consider this... if Kumonga's male imagine a female. :freak:

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Destroyer » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:11 pm

Yeah it's interesting that Showa Godzilla had not one but two equals, the first being Rodan and the other being Kumonga. King Ghidorah would be in hell if he had to fight all three since it's be like fighting three Godzilla's at once. I don't count Kong because he's over the place, not charged he's weaker then G, charged he's stronger then G.


Especially Rodan, he would have beaten Godzilla in GTTHM. Love the scene where he literally picked up the big G and threw him.

With that said, I really like Kumonga's sound, very spider-like. I just love how he appeared, clobbered Kamacuras, then went to take on the big G, good stuff.
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Rody » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:14 pm

I actually wish there was more of a fight between the two critters. Basically, Kamacuras shows up, tries to fly away, and gets sprayed in silk. End of fight.

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Destroyer » Tue Jan 24, 2012 9:30 pm

The one where Rodan drops Godzilla on a tower crotch first, dubbed the "dick drop" by James? Yeah that needs to be one of his throw attacks for a future game.


Yeah, that's the one. I wouldn't mind watching that whole fight again, of course Netflix took it off Instantly...
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby RedZillaKing » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:40 am

Love Kumonga. She hails from one of the best Showa Godzilla films, and she's definitely one of Goji's creepier foes.

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Destroyer » Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:48 am

Is Kumonga a she or a he? I was pretty sure it was referred to as 'he' in the film.
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Berzerkgodzilla » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:05 am

Eh I stated somewhere above why I thought Kumonga was a she, just my opinion on it though. (And even if they say Kumonga as a he, isn't he generally given to something when the gender is questionable?)
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Shadow » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:39 pm

Kumonga sounds more of a male name, but Spiega sounds more femine to me that is. That's what I named my tarantulas. (Don't think I speeled that right.)
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:52 am

I've probably mentioned this before, but I love the build up throughout Son of Godzilla that Kumonga gets; it's almost on par with King Ghidorah from Ghidrah. It's a horrible beast that rules over its own domain on Solgell Island, Riko knows to be wary of it and her fathers journal mentions the creature by name several times. The entrance to Riko's cave home is covered in old spider-webs and Kumonga, as soon as it woke up went to Riko's cave basically immediately.

I normally don't much care for fan extrapolation, but the idea that Kumonga isn't just a big monster but a creature intelligent enough to hold a grudge a single man is to skreeonking cool. It knew where he lived, had been there before to assault the cave entrance and goes back when he wakes up 'cause skreeonk Riko's Father.

Honestly, there's some cool fan-fic potential for a prequel story here.
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby edgaguirus » Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:08 pm

Elephants remember paths to food and water, so Kumonga remembering where to find prey isn't a stretch. Kumonga lives on an island, so the menu is somewhat limited. Memory would prove a useful hunting aid in that situation.
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby GodzillaSpawn » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:28 pm

edgaguirus wrote:Elephants remember paths to food and water, so Kumonga remembering where to find prey isn't a stretch. Kumonga lives on an island, so the menu is somewhat limited. Memory would prove a useful hunting aid in that situation.


Elephants do have great memory though. Not sure if the comparison is accurate here.

As for myself, as I've stated in other threads, I don't like Kamunga all that much. I did like it as a villain for the human characters, but his fight with Godzilla and Minya bored me after being spoiled by Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan. I simply felt other opponents in the series were on some conquer the world poop if they ever beat Godzilla, but Kamunga would just stay on her little island, not really affecting anybody else in general.

Visually speaking, I feel like there are already so many giant spider or tarantula movies that another one was always the last thing I wanted to see. Kamacuras could have been cooler though. Would have been cool if they blended in and attacked like real praying mantids do. Of course, being a giant red bug in a green jungle hinders that. They did it in Final Wars but it was cheap ass looking CGI. As a puppet in the Showa series it could have been freaky!

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby GodzillaSpawn » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:39 pm

Legion1979 wrote:
GodzillaSpawn wrote:As for myself, as I've stated in other threads, I don't like Kamunga all that much. I did like it as a villain for the human characters, but his fight with Godzilla and Minya bored me after being spoiled by Ghidorah, Mothra and Rodan. I simply felt other opponents in the series were on some conquer the world poop if they ever beat Godzilla, but Kamunga would just stay on her little island, not really affecting anybody else in general.


This again...?


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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Mincecraft » Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:59 pm

Just let it die guys. No point starting it again.

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby GodzillaSpawn » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:50 pm

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Gailah 1966 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:55 am

Kumonga is a great kaiju. She was the king of the island before even Dr. Myajima came to it. I would love to see the background story of that island.
A godzillasaurus egg lies there under the rocks, a giant spider which can´t leave her prison. (Kumonga is female in the german version of the movie)

Imagine Kumonga in Tokyo... :freak: It´s good to see that kaiju only on the "small" island. Not overpowered as mentioned in some posts before but strong because of using her natural born tactics (like playing dead, using the "web and the sting" tactics, sneaking around and hiding between the trees)

Even the big Kamacuras was no match for her where Godzilla failed even by using his heatray.
The battle between big G and Kumonga was good. Not too long but pretty exiting. Maybe a triple thread between Kumonga, Godzilla and (big) Kamacuras would have been more exiting but it´s ok as it is.

Good kaiju, good movie (pretty much underrated imo), good story.

Kumonga rating: 8 / 10 :mrgreen:
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby ebirahsmeg1 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:09 am

Gailah 1966 wrote:Kumonga is a great kaiju. She was the king of the island before even Dr. Myajima came to it.


Since when is Kumonga a "she"? That's news to me. Seriously, where do some you come up with this stuff?
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Gailah 1966 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:00 pm

ebirahsmeg1 wrote:
Gailah 1966 wrote:Kumonga is a great kaiju. She was the king of the island before even Dr. Myajima came to it.


Since when is Kumonga a "she"? That's news to me. Seriously, where do some you come up with this stuff?


I think it´s a translation-error. In Japan Kumonga is a male. In the USA I think it´s not really clear what gender Kumonga is. In Germany it´s a female. It´s hard to explain but in german the article for spiders is always female. So they did in the dubbing.
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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby SpiderKing389 » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:31 pm

I remember when I first saw "Son of Godzilla" and thinking how awesome Kumonga was. Now, as my friends can tell you, I'm definitely a fan of spiders. Been so since I was four and have been fascinated with the creatures ever since, so to see one in a Godzilla movie was well, a big plus for me.

However, at the time, (I was a lot younger) I felt sorry for Kumonga when Godzilla finished him off.

Thinking back on it now, I'm more in awe at the actual marrionette (I'm sorry if I spelt that wrong) they built for Kumonga. And what also amazes me is the size of it. I've seen pictures of the Kumonga they used and it seems smaller than I imagined, however in the film, the cinematography makes the gigantic spider look enourmous. Kudos Toho effects team!

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Rody » Mon Aug 06, 2012 2:48 pm

ebirahsmeg1 wrote:Since when is Kumonga a "she"? That's news to me. Seriously, where do some you come up with this stuff?

To be fair, has Kumonga's gender ever been officially stated? IMO, Kumonga would be a good choice for a female kaiju.

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Re: Monster Discussion #22: Kumonga (Showa)

Postby Giga Kaiju » Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:17 pm

Rody wrote:
ebirahsmeg1 wrote:Since when is Kumonga a "she"? That's news to me. Seriously, where do some you come up with this stuff?

To be fair, has Kumonga's gender ever been officially stated? IMO, Kumonga would be a good choice for a female kaiju.


I often imagine him as a male though. But its possible that Kumonga is a Female.
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