Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby Godzillian » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:37 pm

KingKaiju wrote:I never realized how funny this film was, until I saw the Japanese version a few years ago. Looking back at the US version, it makes sense as to why certain things look extra cheesy. I feel like they tried taking a movie that was almost a parody, and tried making it more serious than it needed to be. Some of the humor is great! I also get the impression that Toho was stilll king of unsure how to handle Godzilla and Kong, hence why they went the comedic route.

I think Honda said that the attitude when making it was to make a movie that was entertaining, not necessarily critically good. Luckily it succeeded in both aspects
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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby Grievous » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:04 pm

KingKaiju wrote:I never realized how funny this film was, until I saw the Japanese version a few years ago. Looking back at the US version, it makes sense as to why certain things look extra cheesy. I feel like they tried taking a movie that was almost a parody, and tried making it more serious than it needed to be. Some of the humor is great! I also get the impression that Toho was still king of unsure how to handle Godzilla and Kong, hence why they went the comedic route.

Well...the original Japanese version is an "Everyman Comedy with Kaiju" right?

I understand why they made the changes they did to the American version...
especially considering humor doesn't translate well from culture to culture.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby Poe Ghostal » Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:54 am

This may be old news here, but I just came across this old forum thread that includes a photo that is supposedly from a deleted scene from KKvG: http://kaijuphile.com/community/index.p ... lla.63345/

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Does anyone know if this was ever confirmed or debunked?
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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby UltramanGoji » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:01 am

Looks more like a scene from Legendary Wolfman vs Godzilla.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby Poe Ghostal » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:04 am

UltramanGoji wrote:Looks more like a scene from Legendary Wolfman vs Godzilla.


The first poster on that link specifically says it's not from that film. But again, I have no idea.

Also, that looks more like the legit KKvG suit than the one from Wolfman - that suit is good but not 100% the Kinggoji suit.
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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby Terasawa » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:41 am

It’s definitely from KKvG: it’s seen in a Toho documentary in the Final Box collection.
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Postby Poe Ghostal » Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:48 am

Terasawa wrote:It’s definitely from KKvG: it’s seen in a Toho documentary in the Final Box collection.


Oh that's awesome. Is the whole scene there, or just this photo?
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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby Terasawa » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:02 am

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Terasawa wrote:It’s definitely from KKvG: it’s seen in a Toho documentary in the Final Box collection.


Oh that's awesome. Is the whole scene there, or just this photo?


Sorry, I should have specified that. It's just this picture. I don't really speak Japanese so I'm not sure if anything is said about it while it's on screen. Eizo Kaimai, one of the monster suit makers from that period, otherwise seems to be talking about the construction of the '62 costume and this is one in a series of behind the scenes pictures of the suit.

It's "The Spirit of Godzilla" documentary for anyone with the Final Box that wants to check it out.

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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby Poe Ghostal » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:13 am

Terasawa wrote:Sorry, I should have specified that. It's just this picture. I don't really speak Japanese so I'm not sure if anything is said about it while it's on screen. Eizo Kaimai, one of the monster suit makers from that period, otherwise seems to be talking about the construction of the '62 costume and this is one in a series of behind the scenes pictures of the suit.


Still really cool. Thanks for the info! :)

Now, does anyone know what book this image comes from?

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Re: Talkback: King Kong vs. Godzilla (1962)

Postby mikelcho » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:29 pm

I was just wondering: now that Toho has restored some missing footage to King Kong vs. Godzilla, how much has the film been restored to in terms of completeness? 100%, 75%, 50%, what?

And what's the overall quality of the condition of this restoration, on a scale of 1 to 10?

This should be considered, I think, if we're ever going to get a Japanese subtitled version/American dubbed version any time soon (one can only hope, but I doubt it).
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