Toho Kingdom

Living Corpse wrote:

Goji wrote:The notion that because Godzilla, an amphibious creature (which I just mentioned) doesn't surface implies that he "lost", is purely speculative. Maybe that was the intent, maybe it wasn't. It's obvious that Kong was meant to be the underdog in this film, so if the way the ending plays out is being construed as him "winning" by some people, then I suppose that makes enough sense. I don't know what the intent of the filmmakers was, though.

At the end of the day though, it really obviously doesn't matter. This is one of the greats, either way.

Yeah but let's be real here if Godzilla wasn't knocked out then falling in the water wouldn't have stopped the fight, he would have either surfaced to continue or pulled King Kong under the water.

Goji wrote:

Living Corpse wrote:

Goji wrote:The notion that because Godzilla, an amphibious creature (which I just mentioned) doesn't surface implies that he "lost", is purely speculative. Maybe that was the intent, maybe it wasn't. It's obvious that Kong was meant to be the underdog in this film, so if the way the ending plays out is being construed as him "winning" by some people, then I suppose that makes enough sense. I don't know what the intent of the filmmakers was, though.

At the end of the day though, it really obviously doesn't matter. This is one of the greats, either way.

Yeah but let's be real here if Godzilla wasn't knocked out then falling in the water wouldn't have stopped the fight, he would have either surfaced to continue or pulled King Kong under the water.

Not necessarily. The movie had to end at some point, man. Additionally, nobody knows if Godzilla was "knocked out", only that he didn't surface.

That (now five month old) post wasn't me starting a dialogue on how the battle could have continued. It was about the speculative nature of the conclusions that people come to about the ending.

Goji wrote: That (now five month old) post wasn't me starting a dialogue on how the battle could have continued.

MaxRebo320 wrote:I mean, there's always going to be an effect/sequence in any Tokusatsu movie from this time period that doesn't work. Sometimes its something minor like visible wires, other times its something long-lasting, like the Kong suit or just a poorly-crafted miniature. But it should be noted that sometimes (Certainly not always, but sometimes) effects that are unconvincing were done with the crew fully aware of such, but were done either because they were too fun not to do or would emit a laugh from the audience. The obviously-fake horse Baragon tramples over in FCTW is a good example of that. I'm not sure if the Kong and Godzilla dolls were intentionally shown off that way to make viewers laugh or are just an example of an effect not working, though for the record, they never took me out of the film much, if at all, especially given smaller dolls/puppets of monsters for certain shots are pretty commonplace in these movies.

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:So Ishiro Honda got injured in the middle of filming this. In the time they spent filming the whole part with Godzilla attacking the train and Kenji Sahara's character speeding on his motorcycle - the crew took the safe way up the mountain to the shooting scene, while Honda decided to take a shortcut and accidentally fell quite a bit, and the crew scrambled to find him.
He would end up with a sprained ankle and had to wear a sling for a bit. Yet he only took a day off of filming! I really admire him, he's got this likeable thing about him that I've gathered from his films and reading about him.

Grievous wrote:

MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote:So Ishiro Honda got injured in the middle of filming this. In the time they spent filming the whole part with Godzilla attacking the train and Kenji Sahara's character speeding on his motorcycle - the crew took the safe way up the mountain to the shooting scene, while Honda decided to take a shortcut and accidentally fell quite a bit, and the crew scrambled to find him.
He would end up with a sprained ankle and had to wear a sling for a bit. Yet he only took a day off of filming! I really admire him, he's got this likeable thing about him that I've gathered from his films and reading about him.

Apparently Honda loved hiking & that's why many of his films feature a "hiking" scene.

SuperPawnageGigan wrote:And Godzilla clapping i love how he claps.

KingKaiju wrote:I never realized how funny this film was, until I saw the Japanese version a few years ago. Looking back at the US version, it makes sense as to why certain things look extra cheesy. I feel like they tried taking a movie that was almost a parody, and tried making it more serious than it needed to be. Some of the humor is great! I also get the impression that Toho was stilll king of unsure how to handle Godzilla and Kong, hence why they went the comedic route.

KingKaiju wrote:I never realized how funny this film was, until I saw the Japanese version a few years ago. Looking back at the US version, it makes sense as to why certain things look extra cheesy. I feel like they tried taking a movie that was almost a parody, and tried making it more serious than it needed to be. Some of the humor is great! I also get the impression that Toho was still king of unsure how to handle Godzilla and Kong, hence why they went the comedic route.