How would you improve the Showa Era?

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Exactly! Gojira and Raids again in color would feel more realistic. And it'd likely be more detailed.
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That too.:lol:
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Black and white worked in the original film's favor, IMO.
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tymon wrote:Black and white worked in the original film's favor, IMO.
Agreed, it gave it a great noir aspect and enhanced the general sense of dread.
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I could never imagine Gojira in color. I think it would ruin the whole movie. And imagine a brown G! Also, I don't think the night attacks on Tokyo would look as good, as brown on black looks ugly. I could tolerate GRA in color, but again, brown Goji..........

Varan in color would be great, but I don't think they should make Varan tan like they did in DAM, I like the way he's a deep gray with bright white-clear spikes.

Rodan in B&W would be fine, but the first half of the movie would be pitch black because of the mine scenes.
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he-ba wrote:I could never imagine Gojira in color. I think it would ruin the whole movie. And imagine a brown G! Also, I don't think the night attacks on Tokyo would look as good, as brown on black looks ugly. I could tolerate GRA in color, but again, brown Goji..........

Varan in color would be great, but I don't think they should make Varan tan like they did in DAM, I like the way he's a deep gray with bright white-clear spikes.

Rodan in B&W would be fine, but the first half of the movie would be pitch black because of the mine scenes.
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^Which is still a lost, sunken treasure to me. It maybe utter crap, I don't know, but I'd still like to see it at least once. :lol:
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Increase budgets, reduce stock footage, and a number of other things but who can blame toho for the choices they made towards the tail end of the Showa era.
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Make the GTTHM / IOAM Rodan suit more like the 1956 original. Good lord, that was an ugly suit. Comparable with 1967 Godzilla in my eyes.

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We need to be practical.
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Suddenly, I NEVER want to see Gojira in color again (and the Italians sure have a way of making things much more dramatic...)
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For me, it wouldn't be improving the Showa era so much as improving Destroy All Monsters, since it's the one film of the Showa era that disappoints me for not living up to its full potential. For what was supposed to be the grand finale of the Godzilla series (and Toho's kaiju films in general judging from the selection of monsters), I don't think it was as good of a send off as it could have been.

I think their selection of monsters formed a pretty good representation of the genre at the time, but about half of the monsters getting the shaft in terms of screen time really killed it for me. I can't help but feel ripped off when a film advertises 11 monsters but only about half of them actually do anything. Plus, it always irked me that they used the larva Mothra instead of the more iconic adult form. I understand that a lot of these problems were caused by budget and time constraints, but that doesn't make the results any less disappointing.

Also, the film feels like a downgraded retread of GTTHM and Monster Zero. It rehashes the main concepts of GTTHM (a crossover featuring Toho's biggest monsters teaming up against a common foe) and Monster Zero (an alien invasion featuring mind controlled giant monsters used as the invaders' weapons), but doesn't execute them as well as those films did.

So I would just make sure all of the featured monsters got at least one scene to shine, use the adult Mothra instead of the larva, and make the film feel less derivative of GTTHM and Monster Zero.
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Son Of Godzilla : Never film that airplane opening scene from the original Japanese version in the first place. Aside from having nothing to do with the rest of the plot, not doing so would've saved a lot of money.

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^I like that scene. :oops:
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^Exactly.
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Wasn't Cozzilla supposed to be one of the first tries at completely colorizing a movie? I heard it multiple times, but I thought it was just a rumor.
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gerdzerl wrote:Make the GTTHM / IOAM Rodan suit more like the 1956 original. Good lord, that was an ugly suit. Comparable with 1967 Godzilla in my eyes.
Man, I hated that suit. The original 1956 one was great, wished they tried harder to make it look more like the original.

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PRIMEVAL wrote:
gerdzerl wrote:Make the GTTHM / IOAM Rodan suit more like the 1956 original. Good lord, that was an ugly suit. Comparable with 1967 Godzilla in my eyes.
Man, I hated that suit. The original 1956 one was great, wished they tried harder to make it look more like the original.
Even though I heard that the original 1956 suit was intact at the time, the suit itself, like most 50's styled Kaiju suits were much more intimidating in style than their 60's 70's sucessors.

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PRIMEVAL wrote:
gerdzerl wrote:Make the GTTHM / IOAM Rodan suit more like the 1956 original. Good lord, that was an ugly suit. Comparable with 1967 Godzilla in my eyes.
Man, I hated that suit. The original 1956 one was great, wished they tried harder to make it look more like the original.
Even though I heard that the original 1956 suit was intact at the time, the suit itself, like most 50's styled Kaiju suits were much more intimidating in style than their 60's 70's sucessors.
I think that a more menacing Rodan may have been a little out of place, maybe a little bit of a tone-down would be needed. But to make Rodan look like MJ after all of his surgeries, that was just plain wrong. I remember as a kid watching the original Rodan and then GtTHM directly after and saying "Good god, WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM!?"
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Maybe Minilla was some mutation inside a Kamacarus' ootheca and that's why they attacked..... Maybe Minilla ISN'T the Son of Godzilla! He's some weird Kamacari that Godzilla felt bad for!

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