Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby TyrantGojira » Tue Mar 18, 2014 2:28 pm

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he-ba wrote:If it would be on its own, I think it would be a flop. I'm guessing they wanted Godzilla in there for a better chance of getting a better attendance number, but it's just weird to me.....


Well considering that's not the first time Toho would've just shoved Godzilla in a movie just for better numbers (I'm looking at you Battle for Earth), it wouldn't surprise me if the movie was made, that was the case.


That, and Godzilla vs Megalon
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby shippersdreamer » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:37 am

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he-ba wrote:If it would be on its own, I think it would be a flop. I'm guessing they wanted Godzilla in there for a better chance of getting a better attendance number, but it's just weird to me.....


Well considering that's not the first time Toho would've just shoved Godzilla in a movie just for better numbers (I'm looking at you Battle for Earth), it wouldn't surprise me if the movie was made, that was the case.


That, and Godzilla vs Megalon


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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby he-ba » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:24 am

Maybe, because Kong was pretty famous in Japan with Wasei King Kong, King Kong appears in Edo, King Kong vs. Godzilla, and King Kong Escapes. If it was without Kong or Godzilla, it would be a flop, King Kong would bring a pretty good audience, but Godzilla was the best fit, as he was extremely famous now in Japan.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby KaijuFiend » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:01 pm

I'm a little glad this film never saw the light of day, as the suits look pretty bad, and the Godzilla suit from Son of Godzilla is my least favorite suit. It definitely would have needed a better budget to keep it from looking terrible. Still, it could have been enjoyable in a so-bad-it's-good way.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby miguelnuva » Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:04 pm

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KaijuFiend wrote:I'm a little glad this film never saw the light of day, as the suits look pretty bad, and the Godzilla suit from Son of Godzilla is my least favorite suit. It definitely would have needed a better budget to keep it from looking terrible. Still, it could have been enjoyable in a so-bad-it's-good way.

None of the suits for the film were ever made, and the SOG suit was most likely not going to be used in this film... :?


SOG suit was more or less confirmed for this and the Daigoro vs Goliath suits were implied.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Gothicserpent » Wed Jun 04, 2014 6:56 am

Funny how the plot of the new Godzilla was VERY similar to Redmoon.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby he-ba » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:31 am

Wow.... I was thinking it had some sort of similarity to a scraped project but I couldn't think of it (mostly because I was tearing.....)
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Godzillian » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:18 am

Interesting idea but it seems like Godzilla was just thrown in to make it more profitable and to get rid of the kaiju.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby kamilleblu » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:31 pm

The similarities between this and Godzilla (2014) seem to be rather strong.

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby KaijuFiend » Thu Jun 05, 2014 5:01 pm

I thought of Redmoon the first time I saw G14.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby he-ba » Fri Jun 06, 2014 4:56 am

Gareth, is there something you're hiding from us?
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby KaijuFiend » Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:01 am

It's most likely a coincidence.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby ILIKEXENOMORPHS » Mon Jun 30, 2014 2:35 pm

I do not see the similarities of g14 and redmoon. :dizzy:

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby ILIKEXENOMORPHS » Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:08 pm

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ILIKEXENOMORPHS wrote:I do not see the similarities of g14 and redmoon. :dizzy:


I believe they mean in terms of story.


Oh yea... I was thinking about the resemblance between the mutos and redmoon and erabus.


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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Mechagigan » Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:40 pm

Godzilla '14 is eerily similar to Vs. Redmoon. To be fair, though, the mating and male/female monsters concept is something of a trope these days, so it's not too surprising, and is probably a coincidence. However, I wouldn't put it past the Director to slip these similarities in as easter-eggs themselves.

From what I've read of the plot, it seems fairly strong. The idea of a male and female Kaiju was not common at the time of production, and the anguish of Hafun's death seems like it would have made for a very realistic message about Mankind's treatment of its Animal neighbors. Godzilla seemed noticeably shoehorned into the plot, and it seems like his role would have significantly confused said message. Perhaps the lesson was leaned, but there was still the reality of the destruction being caused, causing the need for Godzilla's help. I also assume that there would have been more minor connections to Godzilla throughout the film, similarly to Vs. Megalon, instead of him just showing up. What is known of the Monster's look is very unfitting, though I'd bet the suits were heavily reworked for their final film.

I wouldn't have minded this movie coming to fruition, though I can't say there's a massive loss without it. Plus, at least we do have G14 to give us an idea of what we missed. :)

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Benn_Sonic_exe » Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:16 am

Erabus looks hilarious. :lol:
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby he-ba » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:20 am

Yeah Erabus scares me. When I first saw the suit in Daigoro vs Goliath I immediately shut my computer and jumped back. I made myself try to watch through her scenes......... eww.
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Maybe Minilla was some mutation inside a Kamacarus' ootheca and that's why they attacked..... Maybe Minilla ISN'T the Son of Godzilla! He's some weird Kamacari that Godzilla felt bad for!

..... Nope, the other guys would never accept that..........




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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby three » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:34 am

a bizarre idea. i dunno if i'd care for the mating thing (i wouldn't), but the idea of the movie sounds cool. as for parallels to the 2014 film, there are some. they're pretty light, too, but overall i don't really think the similarities go beyond a mating pair.


the monster designs (if they were to stay similar to the earbus one we have seen) would be atrocious by Godzilla film standards, even in the Showa era.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby he-ba » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:46 pm

^Ahem, Rodan, and if Gamera's included, Viras
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Gerdzerl » Wed Jul 23, 2014 3:42 am

Don't forget Minya and 1967 Godzilla. ;)


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