Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

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Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Dash 7 » Sat Sep 18, 2010 7:19 pm

IMO, this film would have benefited from a higher budget because of Tsuburaya producing the film rather than Toho, but I can't help but feel it's better this film wasn't made due to certain aspects such as the infamous kaiju mating scene. Just what I've always wanted to think about, two kaiju engaged in the act of coitus...

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby HayesAJones » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:47 am

I like the idea of a baby monster being killed, leaving Godzilla to deal with the furious parents. But, uh... I'd leave the mating scene out...

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Dynomy84 » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:58 am

ok mating scene shouldnt be used. i only picture it too much for the younger godzilla fans and it would screw up with the godzilla for kids sign
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Arbok » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:03 pm

Dash 7 wrote:IMO, this film would have benefited from a higher budget because of Tsuburaya producing the film rather than Toho...


Perhaps, but Tsuburaya did produce the film that resulted from this idea: Daigoro vs. Goliath. I wasn't particularly impressed with the effects from a budget standpoint, and while its true with Godzilla involved the budget probably would have been bigger... I still doubt it would have paid off in a meaningful way. The problem with the production, and probably would have translated to Redmoon, was how the suits were built. They were constructed to look great in still photos, and do...but in motion they look awful.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Showa Gyaos » Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:21 pm

Tyler wrote:Don't tell me Godzilla and Redmoon are the ones who get it on. :freak:

No, no. Erabus and Redmoon would mate. They'd also have a baby who would later die.

I think the idea is interesting enough for me to want to watch it. I'm not sure how it would do in the box office, but it sounds good enough, by Showa Godzilla standards. :huge:
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby edgaguirus » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:18 pm

The idea sounds interesting on paper, but I'm not sure if it would have worked on film. The suits don't impress, either.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby HedorahLives » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:51 am

If this movie were made, it would probably have been considered just as weird as Godzilla vs Hedorah, that's for sure. Arguably, it might've killed the series earlier, but I honestly would like to have seen it. It's a pretty original angle for a Godzilla movie.

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Ethan » Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:06 pm

Was there a script for this film? From the synopsis it seems Godzilla had little participation on the story.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby edgaguirus » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:18 pm

From what I've heard, Godzilla's role is small. He's mainly there to fight and defeat the two love monsters.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby miguelnuva » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:52 pm

they could show around the mating scene easy enough.

Godzilla vs Redmoon was like a big what if it wouldn't have effect toho's showa series we would have just got 30 godzilla movies instead of 29.

Is it true that this movie was to set up a redmoon series?
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Malchik » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:12 pm

Sounds like it could have been a good addition to the series. It's not like they would have acted penetration and child birth in this film. You can introduce two characters and put one and one together when an egg hatches.

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Godzilla1703 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:56 pm

Redmoon and Erabus look like interesting foes. The thing is the mating seen wouldn't have worked, so they should have just walked towards one-another then we cut hours later and the SDF had been observing this and explain they did.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Tohosaurus » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:40 pm

I actually like the idea of the movie, but stripped of Godzilla's role in the film. It would've been an interesting movie on its own.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby Megalon-5 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:35 pm

One of the few unmade Godzilla films I would've loved to have seen. It really clicks with me for some reason. The idea of Godzilla fighting off two angry parents sounds like a cool idea for a film. Granted, it sounds like Godzilla wouldn't have been in it too much, but I probably would've loved to have seen this be a part of the 70's cycle of Godzilla films.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:03 pm

I actually really would've liked to have seen this movie. I've always wondered how the film would end - Would Godzilla discover why Redmoon and Erabus were so upset, and try to 'talk' them down, or even side with them? Or would he do what he did with Titanosaurus and just "Screw you, you're dead"? It would've been a fascinating Godzilla movie, potentially.

Though I must admit, I'm not too crazy about the idea of watching the MusukoGoji, Goliath and Daigoro's mom all in the same scene.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby TyrantGojira » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:10 am

This is one of my top 5 godzilla films that never. Funny how godzilla is in another handicap match in this one.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby miguelnuva » Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:28 pm

As ugly as all the suits were after going back and looking at this, this was one project I would like to see. For some reason if it was made today I see the MireGoj being used.
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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby ILL GREEN » Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:39 am

Wow, another lost Godzilla project, but from the showa era :shock:

It would've been cool I think, but using the Son Of Godzilla suit? No wonder it didn't go through, Toho didn't create a fresh suit for this movie. Big budget movie needs unique props. As you can see in Godzilla vs MG, that suit was freshly made for that movie, but when Toho has to split the profits with another studio, they go all cheapo to save a few pennies.

Other than that, this was probably to test the waters on the audience for a Godzilla vs Ultraman movie.

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby gojirasunset » Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:33 am

There was a mating scene?! I have never heard of this. Can I have a explanation/source of this? :freak: :shock: :-x

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Re: Lost Project discussion: Godzilla vs. Redmoon(1972)

Postby pikmintaro » Mon Jan 20, 2014 9:23 pm

Is the mating scene mentioned anywhere? on the TK Cutting Room article it just says the military brings the monsters together to kill each other, and instead they mate, it doesn't say anything about it being detailed mating or if they would have even shown it happening.
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