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We also get a glimpse of how these kaiju events effect people's lives. We see employees picking up the pieces and finding new jobs/places in life. This is possibly the only Godzilla film to show this aspect.

So, yeah, if you think about it, it did some good actually if it is regarded as a bad movie. Last time I saw the film, I noticed those elements, edgaguirus and was not dissapointed.

The music may be a little repetitive after a while but it was alright.

Y'know, I used to regard this entry as one of the worst the franchise has to offer, but it's actually been growing on me.

Still not too big on the orchestral score, though.

Another thing that stands out to me is that it's about the only film to have a monster battle where both creatures are portrayed in an purely antagonistic light.

^ Oh yeah. There' arent exactly that many. You could say that in the series there are, but I think that's more of a change of the situation where the characters support one monster or something, so yeah.

Yeah many films one kaiju or the other may not be exactly good or bad but very clearly in an antagonistic and protagonistic roles. Like G14, Godzilla 2000, or Megaguirus. Like G14 for example Godzilla is treated in an antihero role but is still very clearly presented as the one you're supposed to root for.

Godzilla Raids Again follows a similar 3 Act structure to Godzilla. The fight between Godzilla and Anguirus happens in the 2nd Act, same Act as Godzilla's rampage through Tokyo in the last movie. The 3rd Act climax is all about the defeat of the kaiju. After King Kong Vs. Godzilla the monster fight is always the climax of the film.

I do wonder if the people that hate the film have only seen the dub? Or have they watched the uncut original? The Gigantis version is horrible. The uncut version isn't as bad, but it isn't a classic either.

Tyrant_Lizard_King wrote:Yeah many films one kaiju or the other may not be exactly good or bad but very clearly in an antagonistic and protagonistic roles. Like G14, Godzilla 2000, or Megaguirus. Like G14 for example Godzilla is treated in an antihero role but is still very clearly presented as the one you're supposed to root for.

Exactly. In those movies, Godzilla is treated as a threat or someone not to mess with, technically, but is supposedly someone that you root for in the movie basis and plot. Unlike here, where BOTH monsters are BAD news and savage and you don't want anyone to succeed in destroying everything as they intend too most likely. (If do with Godzilla, then that's a different thing, as familiarity and such but not exactly like the other cases)

szmigiel wrote: I do wonder if the people that hate the film have only seen the dub? Or have they watched the uncut original? The Gigantis version is horrible. The uncut version isn't as bad, but it isn't a classic either.

The dub, is what I understand to not like but not the ORIGINAL version. I saw first the dub when I was younger and got bored through it all. But then a couple of years back, I saw the original for the first time, and I was fond to it. Not perfect, but not horrible as anyone makes it seem to be. Just okayish.

The original does work better, but I think the Gigantis music score is better. The Kronos theme has more of a sense of horror.

It's really not one of my favorites, I find that its pacing really slow, and I'm not a fan of the goofy, slim-fast Godzilla suit, or its big, goofy eyes. The fight is hyper sped up and it makes the battle look really odd.
And god, Gigantis is a joke
All in all, Godzilla Raids Again feels like the American B movie version of a Godzilla film, and I'm just not a fan

Is the Japanese version really THAT much different from the US one? While reading this thread, I realized that I've only seen Gigantis, and not the O.G. cut. But I don't really see how three minutes of additional time can make any significant difference...

Israha wrote:Is the Japanese version really THAT much different from the US one? While reading this thread, I realized that I've only seen Gigantis, and not the O.G. cut. But I don't really see how three minutes of additional time can make any significant difference...

To me it is like night and day.
The tone is different, the characters come off more serious and less goofy, and since I am enjoy it more I feel the pace is better.
Don't get me wrong the movie still has issues, but over all it is a better film in the uncut version.

For me Godzilla Raids Again and King Kong Vs. Godzilla US version are both terrible compare to the original Japanese version.
Godzilla King of the Monster is not as good as the original, but still a good adaption. I always recommend people still watch both.

Israha wrote:Is the Japanese version really THAT much different from the US one? While reading this thread, I realized that I've only seen Gigantis, and not the O.G. cut. But I don't really see how three minutes of additional time can make any significant difference...

Adjusting the tone, soundtrack, and a few scenes can sometimes be EVERYTHING in determining whether or not one version or another will be better. In GRA's case, while there weren't dramatic changes made to the plot or the order of scenes, the changes they did make bring the movie down. For me, the biggest issue with the U.S. version is the narration, something invented for that version and not in the original Japanese cut.

The longest Gigantis goes without some kind of visual edit is 5 minutes, actually.

People always refer to Gigantis as "the dub". It's a full fledged, American version of the film; just like Godzilla King of the Monsters! before it, and John Beck's version of King Kong vs. Godzilla.

Goji wrote:just like Godzilla King of the Monsters! before it, and John Beck's version of King Kong vs. Godzilla.

"I am an Edit, like my father before me."

Space Hunter M wrote:The longest Gigantis goes without some kind of visual edit is 5 minutes, actually.

Really? It's been years since I last watched Gigantis, ever since Classic Media released the Japanese version I never went back to the American. I didn't realize it was so extensively altered.

(Then again, I'm right now trying to reconstructed the US version of Rodan from the Japanese cut and have been amazed at how many little changes they made just within the first five minutes!)

Thanks for response. Bought a DVD with Japanese cut a couple months ago, guess I'm gonna have to watch it, maybe I'll change opinion on my least favourite Showa movie.

Israha wrote:Thanks for response. Bought a DVD with Japanese cut a couple months ago, guess I'm gonna have to watch it, maybe I'll change opinion on my least favourite Showa movie.

Least fav showa movie? Ouch. Worse then GR?

So, yeah, Gigantis is the one we can agree that is just terrible. The GRA version (original) is at least slightly better than the dub version.