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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:28 pm
by three
H-Man wrote:Oh yeah, that's a great piece. I remember it being played too low in the Japanese version, but the American version turned up the volume on that piece. I think mixing this piece with the American sci-fi themes really gives a good classic B-movie atmosphere to the film.


i've only ever seen the Japanese version, and that is the song that stuck in my head from the movie. just this atmosphere of slowly advancing dread. even if the movie was a cash grab, the original did everything right and it was obvious in some regards (namely the score) that they carried alot of it over.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2015 11:48 pm
by MechaGodzillaShowa
This was the 2nd film of Godzilla and it was overall a very decent film of Godzilla battling Anguirus that was pretty darn good considering that this is TOHO first attempt in a battle of two overpowering monsters that shocked movie audiences back in 1955.

I just loved the acting pair of Minoru Chiaki and Hiroshi Koizumi - that's was brilliantly done and showed the human spirit of overcoming all obstacles in this movie that resulted the death of Kôji Kobayashi (Chiaki) and determination to make the finale is a beautifully filmed scene of the creature being thwarted on an island of mountains and ice.

It's moving, full of emotions, and most of all I throughly enjoyed this film that was made in 1955. Great blending of horror, humor, and interesting human characters that made this film enjoyable to all. I was impressed by it back in 1955.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:14 pm
by three
MechaGodzillaShowa wrote:This was the 2nd film of Godzilla and it was overall a very decent film of Godzilla battling Anguirus that was pretty darn good considering that this is TOHO first attempt in a battle of two overpowering monsters that shocked movie audiences back in 1955.

I just loved the acting pair of Minoru Chiaki and Hiroshi Koizumi - that's was brilliantly done and showed the human spirit of overcoming all obstacles in this movie that resulted the death of Kôji Kobayashi (Chiaki) and determination to make the finale is a beautifully filmed scene of the creature being thwarted on an island of mountains and ice.

It's moving, full of emotions, and most of all I throughly enjoyed this film that was made in 1955. Great blending of horror, humor, and interesting human characters that made this film enjoyable to all. I was impressed by it back in 1955.


wow. another fan of this one. i kinda got the impression i was alone in not just liking it, but loving it. it gave off a strong humanist vibe. ( i sound like a hippie).

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 5:42 pm
by eabaker
three wrote:wow. another fan of this one. i kinda got the impression i was alone in not just liking it, but loving it. it gave off a strong humanist vibe. ( i sound like a hippie).


It may be the Godzilla movie on which I'm most torn. On the one hand, I love the overall atmosphere, in concept there are some interesting character arcs, and a few sequences (including the Godzilla/Angilas fight) are really effective, but it also drags a lot in places, and some good ideas end up playing totally flat.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:03 pm
by Mechagigan
This is one's very close to the bottom of my list, frankly. The characters are what ruin it for me.. none of them really had any meat beyond 'this guy does this', from what I recall. It's even worse as a sequel to Gojira, if you can really call it that, as the characters are nowhere near as compelling or 'real' here as they were there - not to mention the whole thing kind of screams 'quick follow-up' (and who can blame it, it was made to cash in on Gojira's success).The monster scenes were the best part, for sure.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:55 pm
by Lain Of The Wired
This is a movie that usually gets overlooked by me, I find the dub atrocious, and the original Japanese version is just boring. I'm also not a fan of the super-sped up fight scenes, although I DID like the brutal way that Godzilla dispatched Anguirus, although I wonder how they managed to get rid of Anguiruse's stinking corpse afterwards :lol:

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:57 pm
by Monster Zero
I'm literally holding the DVD for this right now. I plan on watching it tonight.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:40 pm
by eabaker
Lain Of The Wired wrote:I find the dub atrocious


Oh, banana oil!

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:41 pm
by Space Hunter M
Gigantis is wonderful. Keye Luke is music to my ears.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:47 pm
by eabaker
Space Hunter M wrote:Gigantis is wonderful. Keye Luke is music to my ears.


Last time I watched Gigantis, I found it pretty entertaining for about the first twenty minutes, then I quickly drifted off.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 6:38 pm
by BARAGONZILLA
I found this one a bit scarier than the first one. Just because if the dark tone and the music. I love it when Godzilla walks out of the water. Enjoy watching that scene.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:15 pm
by eabaker
BARAGONZILLA wrote:I found this one a bit scarier than the first one. Just because if the dark tone and the music. I love it when Godzilla walks out of the water. Enjoy watching that scene.


While it's uneven movie, at its best it is very eerie.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 2:38 pm
by tymon
Lain Of The Wired wrote: I DID like the brutal way that Godzilla dispatched Anguirus, although I wonder how they managed to get rid of Anguiruse's stinking corpse afterwards :lol:

They used it to open a restaurant called Black Anguirus.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:40 pm
by GodzillaFanatic2001
Space Hunter M wrote:I love that one cue that's also in Rodan when the convicts break out.


I've always loved that one too. Does anyone know where I can find a copy of that song, on youtube maybe?

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:44 am
by Piccolo
I just recently re-watched this film (Japanese version with English subtitles). I thought it was pretty good. The movie did a good job creating a scary atmosphere when Godzilla was attacking Osaka. The black and white helped out a lot in this respect. The fight between Godzilla and Anguirus was well done and very animalistic, keeping with the tone of the movie. I felt that Kobayashi was a very likeable character. In fact, it was somewhat refreshing to see a film with "regular" people (the fishery owner and his workers) as the main stars instead of military officers and scientists as are typical of monster films. It gave you some glimpse of how regular people dealt with the aftermath of a monster attack. Masaru Sato's music was also fitting, although one does miss Akira Ifukube's signature scores.

On the downside, the movie is not terribly exciting. The movie can be boring in spots. I also felt that Kobayashi's fate could have been handled differently.

Spoiler:
I felt that Kobayashi's death seemed somewhat pointless in that it did not seal Godzilla in the ice itself but only gave Tsukioka the idea of burying Godzilla in an avalanche. This reduced the dramatic impact of his death.


It is pretty clear that Toho had done all that they could with the heavy, serious Godzilla. That is why the next movie, King Kong v. Godzilla, was such an important change of tone. Still, I think GRA was a good attempt to try to recapture the feeling of the first movie while making if different enough to warrant a viewing.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 8:59 am
by eabaker
A single person's action - even the sacrifice of a major character - bringing about victory wouldn't really have fit the with the movie's theme of community action, and would have wrung a little dramatically false. The problem, to me, is that it takes so long for the action to resolve after Kobayashi's death, and the movie really loses the momentum that it's only just regained.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:19 am
by Piccolo
eabaker wrote:A single person's action - even the sacrifice of a major character - bringing about victory wouldn't really have fit the with the movie's theme of community action, and would have wrung a little dramatically false. The problem, to me, is that it takes so long for the action to resolve after Kobayashi's death, and the movie really loses the momentum that it's only just regained.


I think you make a good point. That is one of the problems with this film, in that the action does not keep rolling consistently. This might be why the film sometimes feels boring, especially compared to the later entries in the series.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:52 pm
by Israha
The thing I dislike the most about GRA is the fact that, few tweaks aside, it's nothing more than a copy of original Gojira. Only significant difference between the two movies is the presence of Anguirus, which itself is kind of less impactful than it should be. City destruction scenes are pretty impressive and the monster fights are also executed quite well, but otherwise, this movie feels like a rushed re-telling of Gojira, with far less engaging human subplots and awfully dragging pace.

While not the worst, it is certainly one of my least favourite Godzilla movies.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 8:11 pm
by Bubbazilla
I loved 'Gigantis the Fire Monster'[1959]. It has that dark tone that Rodan, Mothra, and Gorgo had, too. 'Gigantis' on late night TV creature features is what introduced Godzilla to most of America, too. Remember, most people in the early 1960s thought 'Frankenstein' or 'Revenge of the Creature' when they thought monster movie. Despite smash hits like 'Beast from 20,000 Fathoms' and 'It came from Beneath the Sea', but black bear-sized creatures were about what people thought of monsters in movies. 'Gigantis' playing on their new B&W portable TVs literally rocked people's worlds culturally, too.

I look forward to seeing Godzilla Raids again, too.

Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:30 am
by Legion1979
Bubbazilla wrote:'Gigantis' on late night TV creature features is what introduced Godzilla to most of America, too.


'Gigantis' playing on their new B&W portable TVs literally rocked people's worlds culturally, too.


...what?