Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Gojora » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:03 am

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby he-ba » Wed Jun 04, 2014 2:26 pm

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Gothicserpent » Wed Jun 04, 2014 7:02 pm

I think it's a decent film.

But I'd like to talk more about the Godzilla vs Anguirus fight. In my opinion no other Godzilla battle has even come CLOSE to the sheer brutality and realism that this clash brings. I think the sped up footage actually helps with the feeling of viciousness.

So, even if you find the film slow moving, stay for the kaiju battle midway though the movie. It's scary, thrilling, brutal, and captivating.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Lain Of The Wired » Wed Jun 04, 2014 10:45 pm

Gothicserpent wrote:I think it's a decent film.

But I'd like to talk more about the Godzilla vs Anguirus fight. In my opinion no other Godzilla battle has even come CLOSE to the sheer brutality and realism that this clash brings.

*cough* Godzilla 2014 *cough*
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby he-ba » Thu Jun 05, 2014 4:33 am

The most brutal fights, I think, Are GRA, GvH, GvBio (although they are short), ToM, and G14. Each one is bloody (except GvH and G14), is long, and devastated the areas in which they take place. Also, all of the monsters on each side either die or come close to dieing
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Maybe Minilla was some mutation inside a Kamacarus' ootheca and that's why they attacked..... Maybe Minilla ISN'T the Son of Godzilla! He's some weird Kamacari that Godzilla felt bad for!

..... Nope, the other guys would never accept that..........




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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Pkmatrix » Thu Jun 05, 2014 7:26 am

Gothicserpent wrote:I think it's a decent film.

But I'd like to talk more about the Godzilla vs Anguirus fight. In my opinion no other Godzilla battle has even come CLOSE to the sheer brutality and realism that this clash brings. I think the sped up footage actually helps with the feeling of viciousness.

So, even if you find the film slow moving, stay for the kaiju battle midway though the movie. It's scary, thrilling, brutal, and captivating.


I 100% agree! The only other fight as energetic and exciting is from G'14. It's one of the reasons why this movie is in my Top 10.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Kaiser » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:06 am

What is it about the awkward speed up motion of the fight that so many people like? I just can't wrap my head around it. I don't see any of the ferocity people claim the fight exhibits, the fight just looks strange and feels like it should have yakety sax playing in the background.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Space Hunter M » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:46 am

Pkmatrix wrote:But I'd like to talk more about the Godzilla vs Anguirus fight. In my opinion no other Godzilla battle has even come CLOSE to the sheer brutality and realism that this clash brings. I think the sped up footage actually helps with the feeling of viciousness.

Puppet Gigantis and Angurus on a sugar overdose = BRUTAL

The best part is easily the destruction of the castle.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Gothicserpent » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:40 am

Lain Of The Wired wrote:
Gothicserpent wrote:I think it's a decent film.

But I'd like to talk more about the Godzilla vs Anguirus fight. In my opinion no other Godzilla battle has even come CLOSE to the sheer brutality and realism that this clash brings.

*cough* Godzilla 2014 *cough*


The final battle of the new Godzilla was animalistic and brutal, but I don't think it had the sheer terror of the Godzilla vs Anguirus fight.
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Pkmatrix wrote:But I'd like to talk more about the Godzilla vs Anguirus fight. In my opinion no other Godzilla battle has even come CLOSE to the sheer brutality and realism that this clash brings. I think the sped up footage actually helps with the feeling of viciousness.

Puppet Gigantis and Angurus on a sugar overdose = BRUTAL

The best part is easily the destruction of the castle.


I will admit the puppets can be distracting and goofy ant times, but I really think the fast paced movement emphasizes the tooth and claw fighting.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby he-ba » Thu Jun 05, 2014 12:03 pm

I wish it wasn't balack and white for the reason to see the blood. If you look closely, whenever the puppets are on screen, there is blood everywhere. It would be a nice touch if there was a colored version
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Maybe Minilla was some mutation inside a Kamacarus' ootheca and that's why they attacked..... Maybe Minilla ISN'T the Son of Godzilla! He's some weird Kamacari that Godzilla felt bad for!

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby three » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:10 pm

finally, finally got to see this movie in japanese without distractions. it's no wonder at all that it's one of my all time favorites. i can give a more detailed and layered review if you guys would like here, but for now i'll say that i have done a full 180 on the suits, and this poor movie suffers from being smack dab on the front lines of the greatest run of critically awesome films in the history of the franchise. truly underrated.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Gojora » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:19 pm

he-ba wrote:I wish it wasn't black and white for the reason to see the blood. If you look closely, whenever the puppets are on screen, there is blood everywhere. It would be a nice touch if there was a colored version

If it was it'll be red.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Cookson » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:32 am

Gonna sound crazy, but this suit is probably my favorite from the Showa era. Its a strange suit, but I love it! Need to give the film another watch sometime, but I remember it being quite underrated.

Even getting the X-plus vinyl figure since I love the suit so much.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby skuzzy-punk-kid » Fri Nov 21, 2014 6:46 am

he-ba wrote:I wish it wasn't balack and white for the reason to see the blood. If you look closely, whenever the puppets are on screen, there is blood everywhere. It would be a nice touch if there was a colored version


Imagine if the movie remained black and white, but the blood was colored...

Is that too Frank Miller-esque?
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby AllPowersCombined » Mon Mar 02, 2015 7:05 am

Such an underrated movie. My God. I don't find it boring at all. Weak compared to the original? Yeah, well nothing weird about that. But it's a good movie nevertheless. Awkwardly put between the beloved classic from 1954 and the colorful era of the 60s no wonder it's often overlooked.

I'm also a fan of the animalistic, brutal fighting. Also because it's only present in this movie. I understand that if it were used in more pictures it'd be a problem. Osaka is only a playground for the monsters. I love how they don't even care. They're so preoccupied with each other. The musics fits the tone as well. Especially the fragment where they stop fighting for a moment and Anguirus moves his head a bit for some reason. I don't know but I always remember that moment.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Space Hunter M » Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:20 am

AllPowersCombined wrote:Awkwardly put between the beloved classic from 1954 and the colorful era of the 60s no wonder it's often overlooked.

Pretty much. This film's still fairly interesting once in a while for having the distinction of being "the sequel". With so many other films attempting to follow up on the first movie, just in the back of my head, I almost "forget" it even exists sometimes.
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Postby AllPowersCombined » Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:28 am

By the way, is there a photo of Motoyoshi Oda?

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Postby edgaguirus » Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:14 pm

he-ba wrote:I wish it wasn't balack and white for the reason to see the blood. If you look closely, whenever the puppets are on screen, there is blood everywhere. It would be a nice touch if there was a colored version


I think this film looks better in black and white. I feel it suits the lighting and the suits better.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Mr. Xeno » Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:12 am

Haven't seen this movie in a while, but I remember honestly really liking it. Can't really say why personally, other than it just simply worked (for me). Considering how the entire thing was conceived, shot, edited, and released in less than 6 months, it's remarkably watchable.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby daveblackeye15 » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:21 am

Hm I'm kind of neutral towards Raids Again but this thread is making me want to re-watch both version again. I mean I'm a huge Anguirus fan and I do appreciate the horror elements and I kind of like the undercrank. It's just such a weird film where the other monster is killed/maimed around the middle and isn't part of the big finale.

I guess that's one thing Kingdom of Monsters did right was re-capture the helplessness of Godzilla and Angurius fighting through a city, more of a horror event than a fun monster fight.

I think one of my earlier tvtropes additions was adding the classic line 'aaah banana oil' to the Raids Again page.


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