Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Space Hunter M » Thu Feb 20, 2014 5:53 pm

SpaceG92 wrote: if i'm still wrong you successfully destroyed all my good points for G:RA :lol:

Nah, Godzilla Raids Again still has plenty of good attributes outside Godzilla battling an adversary. Just because it falls supremely short of its predecessor doesn't mean it's entirely terrible. It's quite enjoyable at times actually. It's not a bad movie, just a dull one. Gigantis is too precious though.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby SpaceG92 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 6:08 pm

I'll take your word and give it a re-watch sometime to see if I can enjoy it more then before. Either way it's been quite a while since I watched either.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby three » Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:24 pm

Varan Bon Ziller wrote:


Just shows how awesome...and ugly it can look depending on the angle.


At times, my favorite suit. <3



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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby cantreachbeer » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:16 am

great figure spaceg92 bookmarked it, and thanks space hunter, freakin love that suit.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby three » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:03 pm

I already know the story VBZ. 'Splain it ta them "normal" folk. :P
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Space Hunter M » Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:20 pm

I actually never found anything wrong with the costume. It conveys Godzilla just fine.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Godzillian » Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:21 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:I actually never found anything wrong with the costume. It conveys Godzilla just fine.


I can see why people don't like it but its still a good look for him.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby three » Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:18 pm

Space Hunter M wrote:I actually never found anything wrong with the costume. It conveys Godzilla just fine.



i don't like it. i think he looks too much like a simian. the way the eyes are sunk into the head make him look odd -- almost as if i'm looking at a human's eyes on Godzilla's face. it's unsettling in a "what a freaking weird look. it's ugly" kinda way.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Legion1979 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:36 am

ILL GREEN wrote:Nope, not the '54 suit, this '55 suit is slimmer and lighter so the actors can fight easily. And this one had moving eyes. Though some scenes did show a modified '54 suit for quick scenes.


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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby danyull » Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:15 pm

Tyler wrote:
Space Hunter M wrote:Also, King Kong vs. Godzilla created the "Versus" formula, not this one (at least for the Godzilla franchise).


I don't think it created the formula so much as cemented it.


GRA definitely started the movement, but it didn't start the formula. In every VS movie that followed, the climax is Godzilla fighting the enemy monster. In GRA, Godzilla gets rid of Anguirus about halfway through.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Tohosaurus » Mon May 26, 2014 11:45 am

Just finished GRA. Like Varan, I decided to watch it because it's one of the least watched Toho titles I have.

This too, is somewhat under-rated IMO. Godzilla's suit isn't as good as the last time around, nor are the special effects as consistently good (some are good, some are definitely not). But the battle, odd sped up moments aside, was lengthy and engaging, the score was excellent, and it's well paced. The on-screen kaiju moments don't feel as coordinated and cookie-cutter, somehow. It's flawed, though. In addition to the above issues, the score really the only part that successfully recreates the darker, more brooding atmosphere of the original. The characters are comparatively forgettable in regards to G54, although they are surely par for the genre otherwise. The movie itself is more standard fare giant monster stuff, rather than the politically charged commentary that was the first movie, but again if that's par for the genre at the time then it's not a big issue. It's better than I remember, and actually moves up the meter of Showa Godzilla films. I'll have to watch this one more often and see if that changes.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby he-ba » Tue May 27, 2014 6:28 am

I actually really like GRA, especially the Japanese version. I think they go a little light on Anguirus in Japan, I don't know why. Anyway, the plot intrigues me, all of the scenes including Godzilla and Anguirus are really long and cool, and the final battle of burying Godzilla is awesome! It is, in my opinion, a worthy sequel considering the rest of the series. While it isn't serious, it is a pretty good follow-up to Gojira.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Godzillian » Tue May 27, 2014 9:27 am

Say what you will about the Special Effects in the film but that final scene with Godzilla being buried in ice by the jets is great! Also anyone else dig the Godzilla suit from this film?
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby he-ba » Tue May 27, 2014 10:41 am

^It's actually pretty good! Every so often there is a bad shot of it, but otherwise I really like it.
The puppet for is is just as good as Rodan's ('56). It's really eerie and makes it look scary
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby H-Man » Tue May 27, 2014 11:56 am

I thought the suit was pretty unique. It looks great from the side. The oversized front teeth in the puppets is sort of a test run for the Millenium suit.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Pandadug » Tue May 27, 2014 6:07 pm

This is my second favorite movie after the first. Godzilla is still an emotionless, pure monster at this point. There is just a feeling of the late fifties/ early sixties to the black and white battles; especially the first battle on the island. It just has a long ago distant feel to it. Perhaps it's because I first saw it in the early sixties.
The movements of the monsters seems faster than in any other of the Godzilla films. They go at each other in deadly earnest; coming across as really wanting to kill each other. There's next to no personality in this Godzilla: he's a primitive creature with none of the "cutesie" appearance in his later films. One can argue that the fast movements can come across as silly, but it must be remembered that this is a monster movie and its not like this is supposed to be true-to-life anyway.
It's true that the puppet doesn't look exactly like the full suit, but nether does the one in the first film. This may even be the first movie's puppet. I don't care because it is good and scary-looking. I love those jagged teeth: nothing neat and pretty about these early Godzillas.
I would hope that some of you who have dismissed this film might reconsider it in the light of the time in which it was made. It has a feel all of its own.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby he-ba » Wed May 28, 2014 4:20 am

I like the sped-up motion. I would have never have known if it was unless somebody told me. The greatest part about it is it looks much more fierce, they both are bent on ripping each other apart.
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby H-Man » Wed May 28, 2014 4:53 am

The only FX moment that really rings false to me is early on in the fight when Godzilla and Anguirus break away from each other and Godzilla uses his breath. The hand puppet used at that moment is unconvincing. Everything else was pretty solid by my expectations for a 1955 giant monster film.

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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby he-ba » Wed May 28, 2014 5:57 am

The best is when Anguirus does that weird thing with his head while the buildings behind him randomly catch on fire. I always laugh! That was probably the worst Anguirus looked
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Re: Talkback Thread #2: Godzilla Raids Again (1955)

Postby Kaiser » Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:14 pm

he-ba wrote:I like the sped-up motion. I would have never have known if it was unless somebody told me. The greatest part about it is it looks much more fierce, they both are bent on ripping each other apart.


Each to their own, I always though it looked incredibly awkward.

I've never really been a fan of this movie and it's probably one of the films I rewatch the least. The pacing just puts me to sleep and the tone has always felt really uneven to me. The main cast shouldn't be yucking it up in the burned out remains of their old workplace after witnessing an entire city get destroyed.


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