Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Dr. Professor » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:24 am

eabaker wrote:Just found myself wondering today, considering how long the market has really been limited to the Japanese version and the international dub, how many of the younger fans have no conception at all of the wonder that is the AIP dub of this movie? Popped to my mind specifically when I was quoting the "Superman beats them all!" line in another thread. To me, that's such an iconic moment in Godzilla franchise history, but to a lot of fans now it may be totally meaningless.

Is that the one with the "What a beautiful house it is" line?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby eabaker » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:58 am

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eabaker wrote:Just found myself wondering today, considering how long the market has really been limited to the Japanese version and the international dub, how many of the younger fans have no conception at all of the wonder that is the AIP dub of this movie? Popped to my mind specifically when I was quoting the "Superman beats them all!" line in another thread. To me, that's such an iconic moment in Godzilla franchise history, but to a lot of fans now it may be totally meaningless.

Is that the one with the "What a beautiful house it is" line?


I don't remember that specific line. What part of the movie?
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Dr. Professor » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:09 am

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eabaker wrote:Just found myself wondering today, considering how long the market has really been limited to the Japanese version and the international dub, how many of the younger fans have no conception at all of the wonder that is the AIP dub of this movie? Popped to my mind specifically when I was quoting the "Superman beats them all!" line in another thread. To me, that's such an iconic moment in Godzilla franchise history, but to a lot of fans now it may be totally meaningless.

Is that the one with the "What a beautiful house it is" line?


I don't remember that specific line. What part of the movie?

After the brother and his girlfriend leave the club and witness Godzilla fighting Hedorah, the next day they're all sitting at Dr. Yano's house talking about what happened. They mention how Hedorah started sparking at one point, and then the girlfriend says that it was a beautiful sight. But for some reason in one of the dubs she just randomly says "What a beautiful house it is" for absolutely no reason instead.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:32 pm

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eabaker wrote:Just found myself wondering today, considering how long the market has really been limited to the Japanese version and the international dub, how many of the younger fans have no conception at all of the wonder that is the AIP dub of this movie? Popped to my mind specifically when I was quoting the "Superman beats them all!" line in another thread. To me, that's such an iconic moment in Godzilla franchise history, but to a lot of fans now it may be totally meaningless.

Is that the one with the "What a beautiful house it is" line?

No, that is the International dub done in Hong Kong featured on the Sony/Kraken DVDs.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby GojiDog » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:07 am

The AIP dub of this film wins, if for no other reason because we get "Save the Earth" which is probably my favorite Godzilla "song" in the entire series, lol.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Terasawa » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:38 am

I think this was one of Titan’s weakest English versions (certainly the least of the five Godzilla films recorded with their talent) but it’s still better than the Hong Kong dub, which itself isn’t too bad. I think the child actor that dubbed Ken for Titan gives the best dubbed performance for any child character in the Godzilla series, although that’s a pretty easy accomplishment considering his competition.

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Postby MechaGoji Bro7503 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 1:16 pm

I talked about it in another thread, but this film really is like one of those weird music videos that we don't really understand, but over an hour long :lol: . I dunno why such a thought came to me.
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Postby SuperPawnageGigan » Tue Sep 04, 2018 7:17 am

Godzilla flying. Enough said.
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Postby edgaguirus » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:35 pm

That is the high point of the film.

The uniqueness of the film makes it a fun one, and the club scene reminds me a little of The Blob. When they see that living sludge moving down the stairs, I can't help comparing it with The Blob. I know The H-Man handled that angle, but I think Anno may have missed something by not playing off of it. Seeing Hedorah ooze like that over Tokyo, or the chunks of Hedorah doing so would have made Hedorah even more terrifying.
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Grievous » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:07 am

Can I just say that while I understand how flawed & strange this film is...

I still love every second of it.

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Postby Rhedosaurus » Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:13 pm

This is really the zanyist of all the Godzilla movies. Say what you want, but it has a personality all to itself. Not only that, but considering how the environmental movement was just starting to get worldwide attention, this movie stressed just how bad pollution can be to mankind via Hedorah.

That being said, I can't help but wonder if Hedorah himself is too much of a product of his time. I want to see him come back, but I'm not sure how can be done. He might work if he's changed into being something else, but I'm not sure if that would fly with most of the fanbase.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Kaiju-King42 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:10 am

Rhedosaurus wrote:That being said, I can't help but wonder if Hedorah himself is too much of a product of his time.


If anything he's more relevant than ever. There's probably no way mankind is getting out of this century alive thanks to our ignorance.
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Postby Zarm » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:28 am

I believe we will, my friend. Though the Earth will not be the same, we will still be around, whether as part of a new Heaven and a new Earth... or just ordinary old Earth that managed to clean up its act and endure that long.

That said, I do agree; Hedorah would be seen quite relevantly. He's probably be focused a lot more on greenhouse gasses (or, if part of the Legendary series, be made of plastic straws), but I don't see this era as less conscious of pollution- just focused on a different kind.

I was just thinking in regards to this film- I've been doing some fan-edits lately, and I almost wonder for this film if it might be worth tackling a project to excise the more bizarre elements. Not to replace the film or the director's vision, but as an experiment- to see if, without the random collages and strange cutaways and dancing skeletons, played more straight as a kaiju movie while skipping the psychedelic bits, it might be more highly regarded by the set of fandom that finds it unenjoyable. To see if those elements of randomness are the barrier to entry, or if its something deeper and more intrinsic.

Who knows; I might tackle this sometime next year...
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Godzillian » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:28 am

Rhedosaurus wrote:That being said, I can't help but wonder if Hedorah himself is too much of a product of his time. I want to see him come back, but I'm not sure how can be done. He might work if he's changed into being something else, but I'm not sure if that would fly with most of the fanbase.

Considering pollution is more of an issue now than ever, Hedorah is completely relevant.
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Postby Rhedosaurus » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:00 pm

Kaiju-King42 wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:That being said, I can't help but wonder if Hedorah himself is too much of a product of his time.


If anything he's more relevant than ever. There's probably no way mankind is getting out of this century alive thanks to our ignorance.



Godzillian wrote:Considering pollution is more of an issue now than ever, Hedorah is completely relevant.



Pollution should, but it isn't. The sad truth is that the global warming craze has absorbed the environmental movement as a collective whole. Just look at how nobody covers the accelerated wiping out of elephants and rhinos, nowadays. And let's not forget how nobody talks about the rapid deforestation of the Amazon or the rain forests of the Asian islands.

Hard to say that something is an issue when so few people care about it.

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Godzillian » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:06 pm

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Rhedosaurus wrote:That being said, I can't help but wonder if Hedorah himself is too much of a product of his time.


If anything he's more relevant than ever. There's probably no way mankind is getting out of this century alive thanks to our ignorance.



Godzillian wrote:Considering pollution is more of an issue now than ever, Hedorah is completely relevant.



Pollution should, but it isn't. The sad truth is that the global warming craze has absorbed the environmental movement as a collective whole. Just look at how nobody covers the accelerated wiping out of elephants and rhinos, nowadays. And let's not forget how nobody talks about the rapid deforestation of the Amazon or the rain forests of the Asian islands.

Hard to say that something is an issue when so few people care about it.

An issue isnt relevant because no one talks about it" lol nice. It doesnt matter if its covered or not, that doesnt change that it's a real and still relevant issue
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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby Rhedosaurus » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:25 pm

Godzillian wrote:
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If anything he's more relevant than ever. There's probably no way mankind is getting out of this century alive thanks to our ignorance.



Godzillian wrote:Considering pollution is more of an issue now than ever, Hedorah is completely relevant.



Pollution should, but it isn't. The sad truth is that the global warming craze has absorbed the environmental movement as a collective whole. Just look at how nobody covers the accelerated wiping out of elephants and rhinos, nowadays. And let's not forget how nobody talks about the rapid deforestation of the Amazon or the rain forests of the Asian islands.

Hard to say that something is an issue when so few people care about it.

An issue isnt relevant because no one talks about it" lol nice. It doesnt matter if its covered or not, that doesnt change that it's a real and still relevant issue


Not in our society. With so many people being addicted to their cell phones, and thus petty issues (celebrities, scandals, texting to their 5th cousin that they never knew) too many people just don't care about things like that anymore. And need I point out how materialistic so much of society has been nowadays?

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby eabaker » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:36 pm

Rhedosaurus wrote:Not in our society. With so many people being addicted to their cell phones, and thus petty issues (celebrities, scandals, texting to their 5th cousin that they never knew) too many people just don't care about things like that anymore. And need I point out how materialistic so much of society has been nowadays?

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Postby Grievous » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:57 pm

Ugh...

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Re: Talkback: Godzilla vs. Hedorah (1971)

Postby eabaker » Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:07 pm

Grievous wrote:Ugh...

Whip it?


Too Much Paranoias, I song I'd rank several spots above Whip It in Devo's oeuvre.
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