Least Favorite '70's Godzilla film
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Megalon's probably the lowest for me. I enjoy Hedorah for the villain monster, Gigan for it's fun monster battle, and the two Mechagodzilla films for several reasons. Megalon just does't do it as well for me. But it does have Jet Jaguar. I'll give it that.
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Hedorah is really a mess. People try to say that it is different and unique, which is true, but the writing is bad, the characters are cardboard cutouts without any memorable traits, and the film just shambles from scene to scene without any sort of urgency. It has an interesting message, and a cool villain, but they get wasted by the poor storytelling and complete lack of a stationary tone. Either a movie of this sort is serious with dashes of humor, or its humorous through and through with an edge of danger. Hedorah ranges all over the place and never feels cohesive; it feels like one big mood swing and this style doesn't work for a Godzilla film.LiquidG wrote:It's definitely my second favorite 70s film. Really great filmKaijuAlertSystem wrote:Really surprised by the hate for Godzilla vs Hedorah. Might honestly be my favorite of the 70's films.
Also, terrible choreography and filming of the kaiju battle, and awful pacing that ruins any sense of excitement. And Tomuyuki Tanaka hated it, and considering he created Godzilla thats a pretty big indication that this film isn't good.
Sorry to crap on a film you enjoy, but this is a discussion forum after all. I've just never understood why people like this movie and consider it great. Its... different, but I would never call it one of the best.
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I enjoy Hedorah. a lot of fun and superior to Gigan or Megalon IMO
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Do explain, GIgan is my favorite Godzilla film. I'd like to know how Smog Monster is superior.mechabrent wrote:I enjoy Hedorah. a lot of fun and superior to Gigan or Megalon IMO
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INCREDIBLY different monster than the norm. Very unique movie over all, brutal fight scenes, a little ridiculous (Godzilla flying etc) but a fun and very of the time sort of film. Gigan used too much stock footage and had Godzilla and Anguirus talk to each other, which I was not a fan of. It also did not really fulfill IMO on the promise of an epic fight between Ghidorah, Gigan, Godzilla, and Anguirus.MustafaDaisenso wrote:Do explain, GIgan is my favorite Godzilla film. I'd like to know how Smog Monster is superior.mechabrent wrote:I enjoy Hedorah. a lot of fun and superior to Gigan or Megalon IMO
I enjoy Gigan more than Megalon but I prefer Hedorah to Gigan in terms of films. In terms of actual enemy though Gigan beats out Hedorah just because of the coolness factor of chainsaw stomach.
All in all they are both good films, I just feel that Hedorah is unique enough that it beats out Gigan (just barely). We have seen movies with similar plots to G vs G but G vs H is enough of a departure that it does not feel like a retread.
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I'm going to have to agree with mechabrent on this, Hedorah is indeed the better film, on both a film making stand point and in fun factor, I still love Gigan a lot but Hedorah wins out in my opinion, and it's not because of nostalgia either, I saw Hedorah at least 4 years after I saw Gigan and it still left an impression on me.
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While Hedorah has less stock footage and obviously more of a budget, I think that Gigan has a better soundtrack, a better ending battle, and a better cast of characters. The characters in Gigan are entertaining to watch compared to the ones in its predecessor. Hedorah presents fresh ideas and this does make it unique, however, the film's execution of the ideas are rather messy. Something that both films suffer from are slow monster battles and I think Hedorah was worst in that respect. Compared to the earlier films (Monster Zero or Destroy All Monsters), the fights are almost lifeless or tame. Though I imagine that this is related to budgeting issues.
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That is something I love about Gigan over Hedorah is its characters, most are funny as shit, like the hippy dude with the corn " Gun "kamilleblu wrote:While Hedorah has less stock footage and obviously more of a budget, I think that Gigan has a better soundtrack, a better ending battle, and a better cast of characters. The characters in Gigan are entertaining to watch compared to the ones in its predecessor. Hedorah presents fresh ideas and this does make it unique, however, the film's execution of the ideas are rather messy. Something that both films suffer from are slow monster battles and I think Hedorah was worst in that respect. Compared to the earlier films (Monster Zero or Destroy All Monsters), the fights are almost lifeless or tame. Though I imagine that this is related to budgeting issues.
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He didn't really "create" Godzilla either. That was one, big, collaborative group effort.
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Yeah haha Hedorah EASILY beats AMA. But it is prob one of the weakest of the movies IMO. I do not LOATHE it, I own it on DVD but if I want to watch a Godzilla film and not laugh my ass off at how goofy and bad it is I will not watch AMA. That Satanic Barney voice for the dub Minya still haunts me.Tyler wrote:Well the guy also approved of stuff like All Monsters Attack and Megalon so I don't think it really matters.MustafaDaisenso wrote:And Tomuyuki Tanaka hated it, and considering he created Godzilla thats a pretty big indication that this film isn't good.
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Godzilla vs Megalon, but not by much. I do enjoy that movie, but it just doesn't quite live up to the other seventies movies, except maybe Godzilla vs Gigan, but I've always had a soft spot for that particular movie.
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Ah man, I like all these movies. In fact Terror of MechaGodzilla is my all time favorite Godzilla movie. I guess Godzilla vs Gigan cause the stock footage use was so noticeable. Godzilla vs Megalon also had terrible stock footage, but I thought Godzilla was more bad-ass in that one so it wins the day.
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In Megalon he wasn't badass enough IMO. Too much Jet Jaguar. Gigan had the stock footage and talking Godzilla. I too love ToMG however. Definitely the best MG film.Brooklyn's Revenge wrote:Ah man, I like all these movies. In fact Terror of MechaGodzilla is my all time favorite Godzilla movie. I guess Godzilla vs Gigan cause the stock footage use was so noticeable. Godzilla vs Megalon also had terrible stock footage, but I thought Godzilla was more bad-ass in that one so it wins the day.
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Godzilla vs. Megalon. It's not my cup of tea, but I know that it has its own following.
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Oh wait, I forgot about that! I do love talking Godzilla and his voice that I imagine was supplied by an elderly ogre. "There's somethin funny goin on"!mechabrent wrote:In Megalon he wasn't badass enough IMO. Too much Jet Jaguar. Gigan had the stock footage and talking Godzilla. I too love ToMG however. Definitely the best MG film.Brooklyn's Revenge wrote:Ah man, I like all these movies. In fact Terror of MechaGodzilla is my all time favorite Godzilla movie. I guess Godzilla vs Gigan cause the stock footage use was so noticeable. Godzilla vs Megalon also had terrible stock footage, but I thought Godzilla was more bad-ass in that one so it wins the day.
But Godzilla vs Megalon has one of my favorite G moments which is him showing up on mopping the floor with Gigan and Megalon in like half a minute. THAT is my Godzilla!
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With a tree, no less.Brooklyn's Revenge wrote:But Godzilla vs Megalon has one of my favorite G moments which is him showing up on mopping the floor with Gigan and Megalon in like half a minute. THAT is my Godzilla!
Godzilla vs Megalon had the lamest story and characters of the 70's films, but it also had some of funnest monster moments of the entire series. Gigan and Megalon in particular were awesome together, like the perfect kaiju comedy duo... Or something.
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But if serious, I would love examples of Godzilla vs Megalon's subtle nuance.
But if serious, I would love examples of Godzilla vs Megalon's subtle nuance.
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This is the best post I've ever read on this board. No, seriously.Doctor Kaiju wrote:
Godzilla represents America in it's role as protector of Japan from foreign aggressors.
Japan is represented by Jet Jaguar; technologically advanced, small, but growing quickly to face the future, leaving the past behind.
The ghosts of wars past and those who must punish Japan for their war crimes are of course Megalon, a powerful but somewhat inept kaiju representing China and their rage over the Rape of Nanking.
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That whole thing really is beautiful, but that last line… priceless!Doctor Kaiju wrote:Godzilla represents America in it's role as protector of Japan from foreign aggressors.Brooklyn's Revenge wrote:^
But if serious, I would love examples of Godzilla vs Megalon's subtle nuance.
Japan is represented by Jet Jaguar; technologically advanced, small, but growing quickly to face the future, leaving the past behind.
The ghosts of wars past and those who must punish Japan for their war crimes are of course Megalon, a powerful but somewhat inept kaiju representing China and their rage over the Rape of Nanking.
Likewise, Gigan must have his pound of flesh from Japan and America for their offenses, representing Korea.
Lastly, the United Nations are represented by the little brightly-colored dolphin boat.
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I thought this was a bit till that last line, but then I realized your rational is beyond my limits, and Godzilla vs Megalon is indeed art of the highest caliber. I must now go rethink my life.Doctor Kaiju wrote:Godzilla represents America in it's role as protector of Japan from foreign aggressors.Brooklyn's Revenge wrote:^
But if serious, I would love examples of Godzilla vs Megalon's subtle nuance.
Japan is represented by Jet Jaguar; technologically advanced, small, but growing quickly to face the future, leaving the past behind.
The ghosts of wars past and those who must punish Japan for their war crimes are of course Megalon, a powerful but somewhat inept kaiju representing China and their rage over the Rape of Nanking.
Likewise, Gigan must have his pound of flesh from Japan and America for their offenses, representing Korea.
Lastly, the United Nations are represented by the little brightly-colored dolphin boat.