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Serizawa's Decision

Postby Carthormerr » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:04 pm

What is your opinion of Serizawa's decision at the end of Gojira to kill himself? Obviously he had a fair enough reason in his mind to do it. Assuming everyone has seen it and knows his reason, what do you think? I find that killing himself was unnecessary.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Mincecraft » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:48 pm

Carthormerr wrote:What is your opinion of Serizawa's decision at the end of Gojira to kill himself? Obviously he had a fair enough reason in his mind to do it. Assuming everyone has seen it and knows his reason, what do you think? I find that killing himself was unnecessary.


Well, he killed himself to keep his weapons from evil men, as one book puts it. Though he destroyed the plans so it may have been unneccesary, he could just refuse if taken hostage. Maybe he killed himself to save himself the trouble of a bloody, dishonourable death. :angel: It's basically what the samurai did in the old days.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby NSZ » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:05 pm

While he may have burned everything that was written on paper, the original blueprint was still in his head.

He made something worse than the nuke, worse than Godzilla. I guaran-fucking-tee you that if there were any terrorist sects back in those days, they would have sought him out and kidnapped him and forced him to make one, kinda like what happened to Tony Stark in Iron Man, only I don't think Serizawa would be able to make himself some power armor from a box of scraps.

Sacrificing himself was the only way to be sure that the OD would never fall into the hands of evil.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby chefzilla65 » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:36 pm

Serizawa committed suicide for two reasons.
The first being the secret of the oxygen destroyer dies with him.
The second is a little bit more complicated.
He and Emiko are engaged to be married by family arrangement. Although Emiko only loves him like a brother, she is very much in love with Ogata.
Serizawa on the other hand is in love with Emiko.
There is a point in the film where Serizawa and Ogata fight and Serizawa bloodies Ogata up a little bit. Emiko rushes to Ogatas aide and takes care of his wound.
This is where Serizawa realizes Emiko does not love him but she loves Ogata.
You can clearly read the pain of this realization in his face.
It is here at this point he makes the decision to use the Oxygen destroyer against Godzilla and begins to burn his notes.
Being truly in love with Emiko and wanting only her happiness, and knowing she could never be happy with him in the way of her and Ogata he decides to kill himself.
His final words to Ogata were instructions to take care of Emiko.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Mincecraft » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:40 pm

^ never realized that. interesting.

NSZ, if he felt that strong of not giving it away, could a terrorist really force him? Bringing what chef said to the fore, if he had nothing to live for (in that sense), what would he care if he died?
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Tyler » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:44 pm

The choir of girls influenced his decision a bit too. Most of the movie he's locked up in that castle away from the world. When he sees the destruction on TV he finally takes action for the greater good.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:48 pm

Mincecraft wrote:^ never realized that. interesting.

NSZ, if he felt that strong of not giving it away, could a terrorist really force him? Bringing what chef said to the fore, if he had nothing to live for (in that sense), what would he care if he died?


Terrorist would torture him to get info, pulling out finger and toe nails, breaking his legs, etc.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Tyler » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:51 pm

They could take his other eye. For some reason I find that funny.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Legionmaster » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:52 pm

*sigh*

What a sign of the times. He was keeping it from the Japanese government. It has nothing to do with terrorists.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Carthormerr » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:41 pm

Well again, the reasons are mostly covered. The question is, if you were in his position, would you kill yourself? I wouldn't.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Jul 10, 2012 7:55 pm

Carthormerr wrote:Well again, the reasons are mostly covered. The question is, if you were in his position, would you kill yourself? I wouldn't.


Suicide and sacrifice are two different things. He sacrificed himself to make the world a safer place.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Carthormerr » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:18 pm

Living Corpse wrote:Suicide and sacrifice are two different things. He sacrificed himself to make the world a safer place.


Is that his only option though? Couldn't he have disappeared, went underground, etc?
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby ghidorasauras » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:25 pm

^ If he killed Godzilla and survive he'd be a national hero. How is gonna hide?
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby edgaguirus » Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:00 pm

Serizawa's realization about Emiko hadn't crossed my mind either.

The oxygen destoryer is a terrible weapon, and one that would give any nation the power to win a war. Serizawa is a man of peace, so the only way to prevent this was to get rid of all knowledge of his invention. That included his mind. Serizawa may have also been weary of a world where science is able to create weapons and tools that could cause ever greater destruction and death, thus his locking himself away as he did. In his end, he found peace for the world and himself.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Living Corpse » Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:21 pm

ghidorasauras wrote:^ If he killed Godzilla and survive he'd be a national hero. How is gonna hide?


Yeah it'd be hard to gain a new ID when everyone knows what you look like. True he can change his appearance but there's not much he can do about the eye he lost in WWII unless he got a glass eye or something.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby TitanoGoji16 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:57 am

The amount of people in this thread who didn't realize Emiko and Ogata had any part in Serizawa's suicide astounds me.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Mincecraft » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:58 am

edgaguirus wrote:Serizawa's realization about Emiko hadn't crossed my mind either.

The oxygen destoryer is a terrible weapon, and one that would give any nation the power to win a war. Serizawa is a man of peace, so the only way to prevent this was to get rid of all knowledge of his invention. That included his mind. Serizawa may have also been weary of a world where science is able to create weapons and tools that could cause ever greater destruction and death, thus his locking himself away as he did. In his end, he found peace for the world and himself.


I find one problem with that (prepare for sarcasm)...

if he is a man of peace,

then WHY THE SKREONK DID HE MAKE THE OXYGEN DESTROYER!?
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby chefzilla65 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 8:25 am

WHY THE SKREONK DID HE MAKE THE OXYGEN DESTROYER!?

He accidentally stumbled upon it while experimenting with oxygen.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Mincecraft » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:05 am

chefzilla65 wrote:WHY THE SKREONK DID HE MAKE THE OXYGEN DESTROYER!?

He accidentally stumbled upon it while experimenting with oxygen.


Huh.

I guess thats how they all come along isn't it. :|

Didn't need to keep testing it though.
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Re: Serizawa's Decision

Postby Carthormerr » Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:18 am

Mincecraft wrote:Huh.

I guess thats how they all come along isn't it. :|

Didn't need to keep testing it though.


Did you actually watch the movie? He flat out stated that he wanted to find a use for it that could benefit society
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